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More info on XP expiring

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by MrBill, 2014/01/22.

  1. 2014/01/22
    MrBill

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    Evan Omo

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    Good article but the point still stands that you should upgrade to Windows 7 or Windows 8 on mission critical machines if you can otherwise you run the increased risk of getting your computer compromised.

    Users have had time to migrate to a newer version of Windows for a couple of years now so its time that Microsoft pulls the plug on Windows XP.
     

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    bischon

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    Why should anyone have to move to latest versions of Windows if they are content with the system they have.Lots of people only need a simple computer for basic tasks,not an all singing dancing machine.!!!!!
     
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    MrBill

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    While I kind of agree with you on this, let me ask you a question. Do you still have the first car that you bought or have you upgraded to a newer better model. If you are like me, several newer better models. :D
     
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    bischon

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    I have 98SE,XP home,XP pro, vista(ugh!), And 8.1 pro and I still prefer XP,XP and more XP.I only got a newer vehicle (a MOTORHOME) as I could not go on holiday in a 4 door ROVER.I still miss the Rover.ie If something works for you stay with it and let BILL GATES get a paid job. CHEERS!
     
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    SpywareDr

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    bischon

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    I was joking of course!
     
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    fdamp

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    My last new car was in 2003. My computer is maybe three years older than that. In my last post, I said it was 10 years old, but thinking back, I changed my memories. I have updated the hardware (more memory and an additional external disk drive) so it still performs well enough. I don't play games or do any streaming video downloads. It's plenty fast enough for my two-fingered typing! My net-surfing with IE8 and Google runs well enough (most of the time).

    On a fixed retirement/Social Security income, even finding disposable income for an $800 laptop with Win 7 and a compatible version of Quicken isn't easy. Unfortunately my computer is right on the ragged edge of being able to run Win 7.
     
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    retiredlearner

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    Hi Frank, your age update of the eMachine T3256 is wrong?

    Quick Specifications

    Release date10/1/04
    Processor AMD Athlon XP 3200+ / 2.2 GHz
    Memory 512.0 MB
    Hard Drive 160.0 GB - 7200.0 rpm
    Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    Optical Drive DVD±RW - IDE
    Graphics Processor NVIDIA nForce2 IGP Shared video memory (UMA)
    Graphics Controller Integrated
    Monitor Type none
    It,s newer than you thought! Neil.
     
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    fdamp

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    Well, that's a surprise, Neil. I was sure it pre-dated the purchase of our '03 Kia Sedona by at least 3 years. Incidentally, I have an eMachines flat-screen monitor that came with it. I have upgraded the memory to 4 times what it originally had and have added an external HD.

    It has performed well until the last 18 months or so. These days, it takes a long time to boot up (about 15 minutes from power on) and often fails the boot beyond the appearance of the wall-paper (no icons) or the icons appear, but the toolbar is missing.

    I guess I'm going to have to go deeper in debt! I'm certainly more than another day older!
     
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    retiredlearner

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    Frank, you may need to do major clean up with your OS as that is a long time to wait for the comp to serve you.
    Evan Omo has a good clean up procedure which would help you. Neil.
     
  13. 2014/03/03
    Evan Omo

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    It sounds like you have a lot of junk items on your machine that need to be removed in order to improve performance. Having a computer take 15+ minutes to boot to the desktop is not normal and should be addressed so that you don't lose productivity while using the system.
     
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    fdamp

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    It's never been faster than 10 minutes boot-up, Evan, even when it was fairly new. My wife's ASUS netbook (which was also XP and has been replaced by an iPad) took 20 minutes right from day one.

    Once booted up. my desk-top runs fairly quickly. Boot-up will often stop at the desk-top photo, without going to all the icons, and even if it gets all the icons up, the task-bar and clock aren't there.

    I regularly clean up with Ccleaner, including the registry. After a clean-up, the programs run better, but it has never improved the boot time. I pull up Task Manager while the boot-up is running. It starts out with 40 items in the processes list, drops down to 36, then alg.exe comes up at about the 15-minute mark and I can access the ISP. At that point, with iexplore and chrome running, the list has 42 processes.
     
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    Its really a shame Microsoft can't see the light.

    Imagine if they released a next generation XP with a loadable interface, you could simply select XP, Win7 or Win8. The business world and consumer base would line up to buy it instead of looking towards moving to a Mac or Linux based system.

    Microsoft is truly going the way of the dodo much like XP!
     
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    fdamp

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    As I said a while back, I can't imagine why MS is abandoning all the medical facilities that have XP. I had cardiac surgery in 2011 and every patient room in the hospital had an XP computer in it. Our local hospital is still 100% XP, as is the occupational therapy place I'm going to at the moment.

    Maybe a big hospital has an IT department to look after XP after MS doesn't any longer, but relatively small regional hospitals like the one in Anacortes and smaller operations like my therapist are going to be (to use a polite British phrase) "out in Dickie's meadow ".

    Interestingly, my GP (aka "primary care physician ") switched her small 4-person office over to Apple devices, immediately following MS declaring the imminent demise of XP. Her comment was that Apple "wouldn't drop you in the s**t like Microsoft is going to do. They try to make things downwardly compatible for a very long time. "

    I think the long-distance planners at MS are going to get a nasty shock if all those millions of XP users in the medical field all decide to go with Apple. Could happen.
     
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    James Martin

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    I've often wondered if it was possible for hospitals to continue using XP terminals as long as the main servers were up to date. Don't they call it an intranet?

    On the flip side...

    I had to contact a Citi Financial rep, recently, and direct them to our county's web site so the rep could validate a power-of-attorney, but the web browser they were using at Citi was so old, it got kicked out of the county's web site. How can they maintain any security browsing the web with such outdated software?
     
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    SpywareDr

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    James Martin

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    XP just downloaded an end-of-life update from Microsoft today (actually yesterday).


    I haven't seen this much drama from a countdown since the new millennium rolled in.
     
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    SpywareDr

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    DiggerP

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    Hi Frank,

    Not knowing what else you run, but I still have a (2002) machine with XP Pro, an Intel P4 2.4 ; 2 GB of RAM and running about the same number of processes plus lots of software
    and it boots up ready to use in under 3 minutes.

    Clean, (very little extra software) gives me just over 1 min.
    A stripped down version of XP gives me 35 seconds.
    Coming out of hybernation 24 seconds.

    So claims about Win 8.1 and fast boot times make little or no impression on me.
    BTW, Win 7 ran fine on this machine as well, solong as I trimmed unnecessary processes
    and didn't use Aero ,which M$ later put down as "frivolous" -go figure.

    Obviously it can't compete with higher powered machines

    So with some careful "pruning" ,I think you could improve your boot times.
    A lot also depends on which AV program you use. Some can be real hogs -at boot time and later.

    Pete E.
     
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