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Resolved How to defrag \pagefile.sys?

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Barry, 2013/10/18.

  1. 2013/10/19
    masterroming

    masterroming Well-Known Member

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    Just to add to what I have posted above, this is what I use to keep my system shipshape:

    -- DEFRAGMENTING and General TOOL - http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/boost-speed/
    N.B. Auslogics Boost Speed is a collection of many tools, So not just primarily for Defragmenting, (that's just what I mainly use it for) The collection also hasLOADS more tools, their disk cleaner (when used right) is another gem.

    -- Another General tool - http://www.tune-up.com -
    N.B. You may have noticed that I don't really like to purchase software that comes individually wrapped ;)...
    Tune Up Utilities is another great tool, so much so that in August of 2011 AVG actually acquired it because: "AVG Technologies acquired TuneUp in August 2011 because it believes that they share a common mission - to remove some of the headaches of digital life and make our digital worlds simpler to navigate, easier to secure, and more enjoyable to live." (http://www.tune-up.com/company/)

    It is also important to note that TuneUp can seriously (for want of a better word) 'F' up your system if you don't keep it under control, that being said, if you do handle it well it will blow your socks off :)

    And if you're still awake after that, I also sometimes use CCleaner (http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download) too...
     
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    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    Final (?) thoughts on defragging the Page File .....

    IMO the salient feature with Page Files is that they should be a contiguous block on the hard drive rather than two or more blocks and this can be achieved by setting the Page File to a fixed size - generally 1.5x installed RAM.

    This is certainly the case when using Photoshop on a single drive - Photoshop uses a Scratch Disk which is effectively a dedicated Page File and it is important that these files do not get intertwined for optimum performance.

    Fragmentation of files within the Page File is not that important - after all many people set the Page File to be flushed for security reasons when the computer is closed down.
     

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    SpywareDr

    SpywareDr SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Barry

    Barry Geek Member Thread Starter

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    I appreciate all the input. I decided to get Auslogics' BoostSpeed, along with moving the page files to opposite hard drives, and all seems to be working fine. Thank you.
     
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    masterroming

    masterroming Well-Known Member

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    Woohoo!! :D Nice move, trust me, it's worth it :)
     
  7. 2013/10/20
    James Martin

    James Martin Geek Member

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    I assume there's quite a bit of registry cleaning with these programs?

    I used to use various reg cleaners on XP, but my system paid a price in the long run.
     
  8. 2013/10/20
    Barry

    Barry Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Whatever you do, never run Boost Speed from another hard drive. I've uninstalled the program and still get the automatic disk checking every time I start up my backup drive, and though it says it will stop if I press any key within 10 seconds, nothing stops it. How can I stop this task from running?
     
  9. 2013/10/21
    masterroming

    masterroming Well-Known Member

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    There are yes, but as a default I never touch them...
     
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    masterroming

    masterroming Well-Known Member

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    Why would you try running it from a hard drive, any other than the one you want it to work on???? :confused:

    As for the 'automatic disk checking' at startup, I assume you mean checkdisk?
     
  11. 2013/10/21
    Barry

    Barry Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Yes, I meant checkdisk. Since it can't do it on a partition that can't be locked down, it runs on startup. Unfortunately, it isn't allowing me to shut it down. Maybe I'll just let it do its check over night and hope it stops. My son's computer just looped all day long on this startup check, though I was able to shut that one off.

    Since I have 2 hard drives on the same computer, I often run one program from the other hard drive. Apparently, you don't want to do that with this program.

    Also, I was moving some files around on my son's computer and then used SpeedBoost to defrag a partition. It claimed it was totally defragged, though there was a lot of red left. The log admitted there were many fragments left, but it wouldn't clean it up. I used XP's defrag program, and that cleared it up fine. The more I use SpeedBoost, the more glitches I find. I'll have to be more aware and careful when I use it. I guess I was expecting to press a button and have it take care of everything.
     
  12. 2013/10/21
    masterroming

    masterroming Well-Known Member

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    That's strange, I don't see why the 10 sec. Skip thing doesn't work... Maybe try a different key, or be more... Insistent? ;)

    Actually with the setup you describe, there really shouldn't be any issues, as long as you make sure that BoostSpeed is looking at the drive you want it to work on...

    Yeah, maybe I should have made the 'warnings' clearer... :eek:

    TBH out of the host of programs included in the BoostSpeed package, I only use:
    Auslogics Disk Defrag and,
    Auslogics Disk Cleaner.
    But it's good to know that the others are their...

    Just to clarify something, are you using the auslogics disk defrag? (As a separate program? Which can be launched via boostspeed)

    Also please make sure you have more than 10% disk space available, as defraging and (optimising) are much more effective then...
     
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  13. 2013/10/21
    Barry

    Barry Geek Member Thread Starter

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    To answer your question... yes, I did use auslogics disk defrag as a separate program which was launched out of boostspeed. There was more than 10% disk space available, so I'm not sure the reason it couldn't work as well, if not better, than Windows XP defrag, as XP had no problem with it, though it was slower.

    As far as my looping disk cleaner starting on startup, I woke in the middle of the night and restarted the computer, as it was still in the loop, and it continued its loop. When I got up this morning, apparently it got tired of the loop, so all is working fine. I wish I knew what started the problem and what stops it, so it will be easier if I encounter it again. I'll be very careful to only use Disk Defrag and Disk Cleaner from now on, also. Let's hope that is the end of the glitches, but thanks for being here to help.
     
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    masterroming

    masterroming Well-Known Member

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    To answer your question (;)) From what I remember, there was a 'recommendation in the BoostSpeed 'Computer Optimiser' tab, that recommended I check the disk for errors, I clicked this (Yeah, I had this problem aswell... :() and then on he next reboot I had to wait for it to perform a FULL chkdsk, (all of the 5 steps)...
     
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    masterroming

    masterroming Well-Known Member

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    :eek::eek::eek::eek: :( :confused: that's REALLY strange... Are you defragging and optimising or just defragging??
     
  16. 2013/10/21
    Barry

    Barry Geek Member Thread Starter

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    I just defragged.
     
  17. 2013/10/21
    masterroming

    masterroming Well-Known Member

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    Try defragging and optimising, NOTE: this will take MUCH longer, so maybe do it overnight, using the 'turn off after defrag option'
     
  18. 2013/10/21
    Barry

    Barry Geek Member Thread Starter

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    I'll try that the next time I defrag my drives.
     
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    masterroming

    masterroming Well-Known Member

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    Keep us posted :) :D
     
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    Barry

    Barry Geek Member Thread Starter

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    will do
     

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