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Resolved Speed Expectations

Discussion in 'General Internet' started by aspirin, 2012/11/22.

  1. 2012/11/22
    aspirin

    aspirin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Greetings!

    I live in Canada and have been subscribing to an ISP's 20Mbps internet service. I know that I should not expect full speed, but when I ran their own speed test software I regularly received only about 20% speed.

    I decided to upgrade my cable modem to a 100Mbps service and now my connection is much faster... However, it is still only about 15% to 20 % of the advertised speed.

    I called "tech support" a few hours ago and they said there must be a problem with my cabling. Now, two hours later I've gone from 10Mbps to 35Mbps. Still not acceptable, but I find it interesting that there was such a huge speed increase in such a short amount of time after reporting my issue.

    My main question is, what speed should I expect (and be happy with) from an internet service provider? If I pay for a 10Mbps connection, should I expect 8? I'm now paying for 100Mbps. What should I reasonably expect?

    Since I've "upgraded" to the 100Mbps service I've only been getting an average speed of 23.15Mbps.

    Thanks for your input.

    Brian
     
  2. 2012/11/22
    MrBill

    MrBill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Is this Cable or DSL. With the speeds you are talking about, you are probably on Cable. Neither will guarantee those speeds. It is up to those speeds.

    DSL you will get pretty close to what they offer as you are on a dedicated line by yourself all the way back to the Telco Central Office.

    Cable you would probably get close to what they offer if you were the only one on that leg or just a couple of other people. The more that are on at the same time you are on the leg you are on, the slower it will be. Usually when the kids get out of school and when mom and dad get home the get on line and now the bottle neck starts. Bet at 2 or 3 in the morning you will get good speeds.
     
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  4. 2012/11/22
    aspirin

    aspirin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks for the reply MrBill. I'm on cable. The best speed I ever had was 52.3Mbps at 6:45 in the morning. The slowest, 9:30pm that same day (2.33Mbps). The average over the past month at any time of day is 23.15Mbps.

    I understand I should not expect 100Mbps. My question was, what speed should I expect.

    Thanks
     
  5. 2012/11/22
    MrBill

    MrBill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    asprin, I don't think that anybody can answer the speed question. Like I said before, the more that are on your leg, the worse it will be.
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    How are you determining that rate of 23.15Mbps average? From your cable provider's speed test? What's the URL of the test?

    If you pay for 100Mbps then you should expect to get that bandwidth on ONLY the cable provider's network. In other words, from your comp to their DNS server > to their gateway > to their router. Once the packets leave their network and go onto other providers' networks your bandwidth will change.

    Same goes if pay for 20Mbps service.

    So, if you try to download a file from Microsoft.com, you will not get download rates of 100Mbps because you are limited by Microsoft's network governing.
     
  8. 2012/11/23
    BOBBO

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  9. 2012/11/23
    aspirin

    aspirin Inactive Thread Starter

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    I should have been more clear in my original question. This is not a technical question. I understand the technology.

    What I am asking is...as a customer, what speed should I reasonably expect? I am paying $80 per month for an advertised 100Mbps download speed. Should I be happy if I'm only receiving, on average, 20% of the advertised speed? When I was paying $50 per month for a 20Mbps download speed I was receiving about 20% of that advertised speed, so i decided to upgrade.

    I've been using http://speedtest.shaw.ca/ I check my speed a few times a day and record the results in an Excel spreadsheet. That way I can see the fastest, slowest and calculate the average. As of now, I've run the speed test 57 times and am averaging 22.19 Mbps download.

    At http://speedtest.net/ I just got 12.28 Mbps and at http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ I got 4.84 using Seattle (I first tried Chicago being the closest city to me but the connection timed out at 75%).

    I would be happy with the speed I'm getting if I was paying for a 25 or 30Mbps plan. However, paying for a 100Mbps plan I feel I should be regularly be averaging 85Mbps. Is that unreasonable, or am I being ripped off?

    Thanks!

    Brian
     
  10. 2012/11/23
    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    Hi Brian.

    You should expect your download speed from your ISP server to be reasonably close to the speed that you are paying for.

    Based on the data presented it looks there is something seriously wrong with the advertised download speed that you should be getting. If you are only getting about 25 Mbps and you are paying for download speeds of 100 Mbps then you should contact your ISP and figure out what is wrong.

    Have you tried testing the Internet connection speed with another computer to see if you get the same results?

    I know that you are using cable but are you connected to the Internet with just a cable modem or do you also use a router?
     
  11. 2012/11/23
    aspirin

    aspirin Inactive Thread Starter

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    I just had a new cable modem installed a couple of weeks ago (with built-in router and wi-fi, so I'm no longer using my own router). When the tech came out he checked the lines and said I had a good strong signal. This afternoon I called my ISP, they said I have very week signal and it's probably a bad splitter (I've swapped with three different splitters, so I doubt that's the problem). They're sending out a tech early next week to see what's up.

    I had this same situation twice before when I was on their 20Mbps service (speeds would drop to around 2 to 3 Mbps) and miraculously, the day before the tech was scheduled to come out my speed increased to an acceptable level (17+ Mbps).

    It will be interesting to see what happens next week.
     
  12. 2012/11/24
    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    Keep us posted on what happens. I am curious to see what the tech says when they come out and look at your setup.
     
  13. 2012/11/25
    broni

    broni Moderator Malware Analyst

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    When I test my speed at speedtest.net I'm always getting MORE than I'm paying for.
    I used to have 15Mbps service from Comcast and was always getting test speed close to 20Mbps.
    I now have 25Mbps and I'm getting 30-35Mbps test speed.
     
  14. 2012/11/25
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    I wouldn't accept what you are receiving.

    I'm paying for 5Mx2M and when I test with my own ISP I get 6+M x 3+M

    When I test with my Web host (5950Mi away) I get 4.1M x 2.8M. That's good enough for me.
     

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  15. 2012/11/27
    aspirin

    aspirin Inactive Thread Starter

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    The tech was here earlier today and I must say I'm very happy with how things are resolving.

    He tested my hardware, everything good. He tested signal strength, perfect. He looked at the network load and 98% saturation. Problem identified. Like mentioned earlier, and as suspected, network congestion is the problem.

    He made a few phone calls and discovered the node I am on is scheduled to be split in the next few weeks. I asked him who I should call to see about getting compensation for the slow speeds I have been receiving. He made another phone call, this time to his boss, and got me one month free service. Hopefully, by the time my free service runs out the node will be split and service will be at full speed.

    I'll let you know what happens.

    Thanks to all for your great input!

    Brian
     
  16. 2012/11/29
    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    If the node is not split in a month, call back and request additional compensation, they will do it.
     
  17. 2012/11/29
    MrBill

    MrBill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Got to agree with this. That way they will know you are still here and don't appreciate them blowing smoke where the sun don't shine. :D
     
  18. 2012/11/29
    aspirin

    aspirin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks very much for the advice. I'm going to keep an eye on my speeds and if things don't approve by Christmas I'll be calling my ISP again.

    Brian
     
  19. 2012/11/29
    aspirin

    aspirin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks for the suggestion TonyT. I don't plan on paying for service I'm not receiving.

    Brian
     
  20. 2013/04/11
    TonyT

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    Status report?
     
  21. 2013/04/12
    aspirin

    aspirin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Good news! Issue resolved (sort of).

    It's been months since I've made any progress, so I contacted my internet provider on the morning of April 10 and we had a number of very long conversations regarding my internet speeds and the amount they are charging me and how I am to be compensated.

    This morning I had another conversation with one of the CSRs I've been dealing with and I'm very happy with the results. What we agreed to is that because I'm only receiving about 10% to 20% of what I've been paying for they are going to continue providing me with the 100 Mbps service, but are only going to bill me for a 10 Mbps service. This arrangement will be in place until they have their technical issues resolved and are actually providing me with the appropriate speeds.

    In addition they have credited my account with the difference between the two internet plans ($50 per month) and back-dated it to the day I first signed up for the 100 Mbps service. A pretty substantial credit (over $200). I am moving next Wednesday, so the CSR also offered to waive the $30 fee to have a tech come out and take care of moving my services.

    I am very happy with the results and the extra steps the CSR went to to make sure I was happy. I am now paying the appropriate amount for the service I am receiving.

    Also, thanks to everyone here for your advice and input. Much appreciated!

    Brian
     

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