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Performance Increase?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by aspirin, 2012/06/06.

  1. 2012/06/06
    aspirin

    aspirin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Greetings!

    I Currently have 6 gigs of RAM in my Windows 7 system and am wondering what I might expect in terms of overall performance increase if I upgrade to 16 gigs of physical RAM?

    Thanks,

    Brian
     
  2. 2012/06/06
    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    Hi Brian. Unless you are using virtual machines or doing heavy video editing then you won't see much of an increase in performance with 16 GB of RAM. If you were to upgrade your RAM I would say install another 2 GB to bring your system up to 8 GB of RAM. I have 8 GB of RAM on my system (upgraded from 4 GB) and I noticed an increase in performance when I upgraded.

    What do you use your system for?
     

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    Arie

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    You are most likely to gain more with a faster hard drive (preferably an SSD drive) or a CPU upgrade (though I don't think that's possible with your motherboard).
     
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  5. 2012/06/07
    aspirin

    aspirin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks for the input.

    I use my system mostly for day to day tasks (email, web browsing, word processing, Excel, etc). However, it's not unusual for me to have 4, 5, or even 6 applications at once and switch between them regularly. That's why I was wondering if more RAM would help.

    My system is pretty quick now, but I'm always looking for better performance.

    The best speed increase I ever experienced was when I upgraded my 64 meg video card to a 256 meg card on my old AMD system. I thought about upgrading the video on my current system, but I'd need to upgrade the power supply too. The reason I mention this is I'm thinking about adding a second monitor.

    I do play games from time to time (Warcraft III, Starcraft II, Unreal Tournament 3 & 4, COD, Halo, etc.) They all run fine with my current configuration, but again, better performance is the goal :)

    Thanks again for your advice,

    Brian
     
  6. 2012/06/07
    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    Your Welcome. :) If you need help down the road with upgrading any other components in your system like your video card feel free to let us know.
     
  7. 2012/06/09
    jaydeee

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    16 GB is too much IMO. Anyway if you really need that boost your motherboard is your only limitation.
     
  8. 2012/06/11
    Arie

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    There can never be too much memory :D But the point is: will it be used? I highly doubt it in Brian's case.

    Check your memory usage in Task Manager (Performance tab).

    I do agree that the motherboard is a weak point. If you want all the performance you can get, you need to build your own with quality components. OEM manufacturers rarely use quality. They use the minimum necessary to 'scrape by' and keep costs down & profit up.
     
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    tigerbright

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    Hi , at 16GB ( 4 x 4GB modules) probably a BIOS halt , according to the vendor your DX4831 series desktop supports a maximum of 8GB total installed ram memory

    http://support.gateway.com/s/desktop/2009/gateway/dx/dx4831/DX4831sp2.shtml

    however if using 1066MHz modules you can realise a 30% increase in internal ram memory speed by upgrading to 1333MHz modules ( 4 x 2GB ) - this should reduce time to process tasks
     
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    tigerbright

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  11. 2012/06/19
    aspirin

    aspirin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Great tips, thanks! I was unable to find what my system's RAM limit was. I was not aware that faster RAM modules would be compatible. That seems like a good route to go.

    One of the main reasons I thought about upgrading to 16 gigs is that when I first explored Windows 7 two years ago I read a number of articles that stated 6 gigs of RAM was the absolute minimum you'd want to have for that particular operating system. That said, I have a few friends running laptops with only 4 gigs.

    Taking Arie's advice (well, interpreting it) re: a faster hard drive... I have three drives on my system. 1) the internal 1T the system came with, 2) a 3T running on USB 2.0 and 3) a 500 GIG (also USB 2.0) which I use only to backup data.

    The 3T drive has USB 3, so I added a USB3 card to my system. With my main data drive plugged into a faster interface I am noticing a relatively significant speed increase when multitasking and multiple programs are accessing data from that drive.

    I will also upgrade the RAM to 8 gigs and use faster modules.

    Thanks again for all the advice.

    Brian
     
  12. 2012/06/19
    dnmacleod

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    A side question Arie. Is there a point where the RAM could be increased to where it would be possible to disable virtual memory? Or is virtual memory one of these things that HAS to be there?

    It was a "Damascus road" experience for myself when I figured that point out a number of years ago now. What is also interesting is that a component supplied in an OEM PC will often be out-performed by a retail version of the same component eg a graphics card. The reason for this is simple: If a component isn't running at full performance, its less likely to fail and consequently the OEM will save on warranty claims.

    OEMs are very good at what they do. They will build a PC to perform a function -- JUST... Problem is that when the user starts to add more and more software, the performance often falls dramatically. Its the same old story -- you get what you pay for.
     
  13. 2012/06/20
    Arie

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    It has to be there. You'll find many users that say they run without pagefile, and it is possible, but some 3rd party software will not work without the presence of a pagefile. Also, if you have no pagefile and start running out of memory, things get ugly fast! (applications will start crashing). There is never "a point ".... it depends on what you run. I have a few (7) Virtual machines, but can only run about 3 or 4 (depending on which OS they run) at the same time before I'm at 98% of my 12GB memory. So I may want to put the max of my motherboard (24G) at one point.

    Yes. That + a top-notch UPS and PSU :)
     
  14. 2012/06/20
    dnmacleod

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    Thanks Arie.

    That's handy to know.

    Like a lot of other things though, for most people, its a question of compromise. Otherwise people can easily go OTT and spend money that its not really necessary to spend with no real performance boost to show for it.
     
  15. 2012/06/20
    Arie

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    Well, if you only care about performance, just buy a new PC every 3 years....

    I don't care about performance that much. I care about stability & endurance. I use my computer around 12-14 hours a day (if not more), and run my motherboard/CPU/memory combo usually for 4-5 years before I upgrade.

    A lot of computer problems/crashes would be avoided with a good UPS (APC only) and PSU.
     
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  16. 2012/06/20
    rsinfo

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    I fully agree there. In India, I have seen people throwing tons of money on fancy gadgets & top of the line motherboard but when it comes to PSU, they settle for the cheapest one they can find. Needless to say, it goes kapoot soon.
     

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