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Resolved Jumper on old HD? & Adjustment to BIOS?

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    papernpaste Old Man Thread Starter

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    Today, without hesitation, I replaced my old hard drive with a new one...same make and size as the original...WD2500. I don't really need huge HD capacity.
    I also installed Windows 7 32 bit on the new hard drive.
    Then, I re-installed the old hard drive and connected it to the second SAT connector on the mother board. I thought that I read somewhere to remove the jumper on the old hard drive and did so. But, that must be incorrect because, when I rebooted, the computer boot off of the old drive.

    Do I need the to put the pin jumper back on the old hard drive? If so, between which pins, please?

    Do I have to do something in BIOS?

    Thanks for any help.
     
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    SATA drives do not require jumpers except to select the transfer speed - SATA1, 2 etc.

    Check in your BIOS the HD boot order - seems like you have it set for the old drive as first boot.

    What OS is installed on the old drive? You may need to load a boot manager to sort that out.
     

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    XP Media Center 2002 is installed on the old drive.
    Should I put the jumper shunt back on the old drive as it was when it was the only drive? It's a WD2500JD and is as old as the computer (2002, i think)
    It was on between one and two (the two pins to the far right while looking at the rear of the drive.)

    If I have the option of going into bios and booting off the old drive and running XP, I'll leave XP on the old drive so that I can run XP when I want to use MS Word 2002. (Windows 7 and Word2002, as you know, are not compatible)

    Is it okay to leave both OS's on the separate drives and run Windows 7 most of the time off the new Hard Drive, switching to the older drive and XP, through bios settings, when I so desire?

    If I can control this boot process simply by chaning things in BIOS, that's great.

    So, should I just go into BIOS and chose the new Drive as the boot drive and confirm that I can, in fact, run Windows 7?

    I wish that I understood things a little better. It was easy to replace the old drive, leaving the original drive unhooked, and installing Windows 7.

    If BIOS controls which drive is the boot drive, then I should be able to run either OS, correct?

    Perhaps I don't need to worry about the jumper shunt...just leave it off.
    Thanks
     
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    I have 2 sata drives. PC came with XP one it. Bought another drive and put Win 7 on it. Didn't do anything special in BIOS. When I boot, it defaults to the Win 7 drive and if I want XP, I have to arrow up to choose it. Should be the same on yours.
     
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    You would probably been better off leaving the XP drive connected and then installing 7 onthe new drive - 7 would have created a boot manager as Mr Bill infers from which you could select the drive to boot to.

    All may not be lost - try EasyBCD
    If you are able to choose the boot order in BIOS this will not present a menu at boot up from which to choose the OS - it sets the default boot up drive.

    I'm not sure of the function of the jumper beyond what I posted - replacing it should do no harm, but will not change the situation re. booting.
     
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    I'm running Windows 7, now, after manually chosing my F: drive in BIOS. I will attempt another reboot and see if it is still defaulting to XP, as it did previously. I want to get my antivirus squared away, first. I'm running unprotected at the moment.
    I like the sounds of the EasyBCD program, PeteC. Thanks.
    nice to know that I can boot with either...solves a few software concerns that I had, anticipating the Windows 7 installation.
    You've both been helpful. Thank you. I'll mark this one "resolved. "
     
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    A Final Note

    I DID take everyones' advice, here, and (additionally) watched a couple of Youtube videos and visited the site and downloaded EasyBCD.

    I recieved great advice from everyone that replied to my first post.
    As I mentioned four days ago, I had "jumped" right into what I thought was going to be a drive replacement and Windows 7 install.

    This is what I ended up doing after the education process:

    I RE-formatted the disc on which I had installed Windows 7, leaving it clean.
    I removed the original and new hard drives, physically.
    I put the jumper back on the original (if it ain't broke, don't fix it) and installed it back in its original bay.
    I installed the new hard drive in the second bay and patched it back into the mother board.
    I, then, booted the computer up with only XP on the C: drive, leaving the new hd drive clean.
    Then I shut down and rebooted with Windows 7 in the D: drive.
    It found its new home, automatically.
    I still didn't have any options offered during the installation with regard to disc management or boot options.
    So, I installed EasyBCD (which MUST go on the Windows 7 hard drive)
    Once I ran that and sorted out how to use it (backing things up before and afterward), I had my boot options that I was looking for and I can now choose, as I boot up, which system to run.

    Thank you, everyone that helped.
     
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    Is your MOBO marked 1 2 3 etc. where you plug in the cables at?
    I don't know why you had to download anything. I have a Dell Vostro 200 and it came with XP on it. I bought a new HD and a copy of Win 7. Installed the HD in slot 2. Booted to it and installed 7 on it. Got the updates and everytime it wanted to reboot to finish, I did and then it would boot and ask me which I wanted. Win 7 was default and all I do is hit enter or wait 30 seconds and it goes to it. If I want XP, I just arrow up one and hit enter.

    Friend that lives in the next town over did the same thing that I did except he has an HP.

    Oh well, at least you got it working.
     
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    It could be that my windows 7 didn't offer that because I had REMOVED the original drive (the one with XP on it) and THEN installed the new hard drive and ran the Windows 7 install with the XP drive out of the case. Then I put the XP hard drive back in the case and booted again and (naturally, now that I understand the process)the XP drive wasn't in the machine when I initially set up Windows 7. THEN, I got involved with these posts and realized that I should have educated myself and used a bit more common sense before I installed Win 7. Having realized the error of my ways, I re-formatted the new drive (the one with Win 7 on it) and started over, leaving the original drive in the unit and, the second time around, Windows 7 recognized the XP drive but, may have expended its boot drive modifications capabilities in the first install....that's a guess.
    Easy BCD worked easily and now I understand that the newer versions can recognize already installed OLDER versions, already on a machine. But the older versions won't recognize the new versions so, adding the XP drive back into the case, after I installed Windows 7 did not accomplish anything.
     

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