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The Ordinal 685 could be not located in the dynamic link library iertutil.d

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by gbowman11, 2010/09/15.

  1. 2010/09/15
    gbowman11

    gbowman11 Inactive Thread Starter

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    After installing Windows Update NET FRAMEWORK 3.5 machine hangs with the error and will not boot explorer. Concern is time bomb in this update is screwing up machines without adequate explanation from Microsoft as to cause. Even with new install of XP on different drive causes new installation of programs to malfunction and hang. Who at Microsoft can be relied upon for accurate answers to questions on this failure? This error appears UNRECOVERABLE even with use of rollback using archiving software such as FIXIT and WINDOWS RESTORE to any previous save.
     
  2. 2010/09/16
    mattman

    mattman Inactive Alumni

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    The file is "involved" with Internet Explorer
    http://www.ehow.com/how_5329075_fix-iertutildll.html

    Have you tried uninstalling .Net Framework 3.5 in Add or Remove Programs?

    Then, from the link, look at installing or reinstalling Internet Explorer 7.

    MS might not have a solution themselves. Many people dislike .Net Framework. I clench my teeth when I need to upgrade it.

    Matt
     

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  4. 2010/09/24
    gbowman11

    gbowman11 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Ordinal 685 and Framework 3.5

    This appears to be another of Microsoft's poorly checked out updates that has major consequences if it fails to install. I would say stay away from the Network 3.5 update for a lot of reasons now among them being 1) once it fails to install it creates the Ordinal 685 problem and that is death for the XP installation. You cannot restore it any way except if you use Acronis you can nuke the whole hard drive and restore (I have never had any luck with Microsoft's backup and restore). I was already up to IE8 and could not find anyway to uninstall it from the pathetic state this fault leaves the computer in so this time I had to install a second instance of XP and attempted to clean out my C drive (default) from my G drive. Well that had some problems too so I nuked the XP installation in the C drive and loaded software for two days to get it back again. At least now I have the function of the computer back with XP installed in two drives for redundancy in case anything like this ever happens again.
     
  5. 2010/09/24
    gbowman11

    gbowman11 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Recovering from the XP death Ordinal 685

    The Framework 3.5 update failed in its installation so was not logged into the add/remove programs. Also I did not find an instance of IE7 or IE8 logged into add/remove functions. The fault does permit use of "add/remove" via command function but appears to corrupt registry files necessary to run any other programs. I did notice that an error also comes up the "NEWDEV.DLL" cannot be loaded and I think that program is related to running all the others. I was surprised that the Avanquest Restore did not work on this fault. I went back to several earlier points in time attempting to restore but each time an error was received that certain files or blocks could not be restored. I believe that the only way this drive could have been brought back was through a CD boot from the Acronis program to restore every byte of the hard drive back to its former state. This is what I am going to do in the future.
     
  6. 2010/09/25
    mattman

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    It seems you run a lot of software. Some (one) of the software could be interfering. If you only just installed Windows on a computer it, without software, it would probably run forever (or for the life of the computer :D).

    Software manufacturers do their best to provide the best program, but if you note the upgrades/patches, it could be far from perfect.

    If I install Windows, I get any driver upgrades, then any Windows upgrades (updates), which would likely include .NET upgrades, then start installing software and look at upgrading those.

    I keep my system "minimal ". I think very hard before I install third-party software and if I might really need it. I pride myself in how long I can keep a Windows system running. Any glitches will come from software. I no longer keep an "image" of my system, it usually includes software I no longer need. Having an image that just has updates and upgrades for drivers and Windows is nice, but they still need to be upgraded to the present. A fresh installation of Windows seems to upgrade smoothly. I have my data backed up and install Windows from the disk.

    If you have software that might need to be upgraded, consider that it could be the problem. It might have worked with early upgrades/updates of Windows or .NET, now it doesn't.

    Some of the programs I am coming in contact with, based on open-source, are having problems Windows updates. I would investigate any of those if you have them.

    If you think reinstalling Windows has overcome the problem, please mark the thread Resolved.

    Matt
     
  7. 2010/09/26
    gbowman11

    gbowman11 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Software Interactions with Windows Update

    I would agree with you that I do run many different programs with Windows 98 (yes still need to use it, Quickbasic is still needed), Windows XP (This one runs PCMCIA cards) and Windows 7 - this one does not run PCMCIA cards
    :mad: These all have to talk to each other and run graphics, GPIB, and operations related programs. It takes a long time to load these programs so it is frustrating when you want to do a simple update and it turns into a disastrous recovery operation. I think Microsoft has to invest in an "UNDO" failsafe for their updates that absolutely restores the last state of the machine. Consider the fact that support is lapsing for these operating systems so recovery in the future might (will) be impossible so what is one to do except fully back up every byte of work before any update is undertaken. I guess this thread is closed.
     
  8. 2010/09/27
    mattman

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    I sympathise, I have come across it many times.

    I run a Vista computer for daily use. I have a television card and an audio card that don't have Vista drivers, so I have made a media computer using Windows XP. It doesn't go on the internet, so it doesn't need updates, it doesn't need antivirus or other antimalware. It might only need an update if I installed a program that required it. I am thinking of installing a "media center" program, but it requires .NET 2.5, so I am going to hold off until I can get it organised. If the system stops working, there are only few steps to rebuild it.

    I used to use (ghost) images, but that might contain the original basis of the problem, so you could end up following the same path and being in the same situation.

    Most of the systems that "blow up ", I find, are because they need updates of drivers or in your case programs/software to keep up with the updates MS need to make in Windows. I use a separate computer for running the hardware/software that I can't find updates for and leave it in a time-warp where it doesn't need or get updates (and because they don't need any sundry programs running in the background, they go like a rocket).

    If you have a computer that will run your different operating systems, I suggest you put them on different hard disk drives and use the boot options in the BIOS to select which one (which HDD) to boot to. Don't allow the "specialist" systems to connect to the internet, leave them in the time-warp. Run your daily/standard system with all the updates and security you want (although I don't use encryption and have had to apologise to people that ask me to look at their corrupted encrypted folders). If you "break" one system or need to dispose of it, it won't impact on the others.

    Just my suggestion.

    Matt
     

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