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Resolved Outlook Express Backup

Discussion in 'Microsoft Mail (Outlook / OE / Windows Mail)' started by rondom, 2010/07/29.

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    rondom

    rondom Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I just installed a seagate backup drive and would like to select folders, files I want to backup. No need to backup all documents or C drive. But I tried to locate where the outlook express files are and could not locate them. I have 3 indentities and want the address books and all inbox, outbox, deleted and sent files and draft flders. I have windows xp and outlook express 6. How can I backup the OE6 to my backup drive? Thank you.
     
  2. 2010/07/30
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    The default location of the OE message store is shown under Tools > Options > Maintenance tab - Message Store. These are hidden *.dbx files so enable Show hidden files and folders in Windows Explorer (Tools > Folder Options > View tab)

    This article summarizes detail on backing up OE .....

    How to back up and to restore Outlook Express data
     

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    rondom

    rondom Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Pete, I do see that and I had created a backup folder on the desktop with the data in 2 separate folders. So I think I could create that backup and try to keep it up to date and then backup the desktop folders. I was hoping there was an easier way but I cannot see how to simply have the backup drive do a backup by selecting a folder to outlook express for each identity. If I have to go to message store I don't how to back that up directly to my drive.
     
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    PeteC

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    If you navigate to the location of the Message Store and open it you will see Inbox.dbx, Outbox.dbx, ..... (Remember to enable view hidden files and solders).

    The simpler route is to search for *.dbx - including hidden files and folders.

    You may find it more convenient to do as I did in my Outlook Express days prior to moving to Windows 7 and Outlook, that is to create a folder, say Outlook Express, in My Documents or another convenient location, copy the *.dbx files into it (with OE closed) and then in OE - Tools > Options > Maintenance tab - Message Store and point OE to the new location. I now follow the same practise with Outlook.
     
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    I use Replicator to backup data from the "drive in use" to a backup drive. In Replicator, you can create jobs whereby you specify a source folder and a destination folder. After the jobs (in your case regarding OE, one job for each identity) have been created, they are executed either manually or scheduled. (I've always done it manually and don't know how well scheduling works.)
     
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    rondom

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    Pete, isn't that what I was describing by having a folders on desktop with file for each identity. I would then select the folders to go to my backup drive.
    I have all files for inbox, sent items, drafts, deleted items, All.dbx files. And address book (an excel file). I also show a sent items QQQ file, don't know what it is should it be deleted? Also an IAF file of 1 kb.

    The instructions have an import for mail accounts file. Must that be in backup file?
     
  8. 2010/07/30
    PeteC

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    If I understand you correctly you have created 2 backup folders on your desktop - I would prefer to place them directly on the hard drive. That is fine up to a point, the point being that you need to update them prior to backing up to an external drive.

    If you were to use the method I suggested and relocated the Message Store in another more accessible folder the contents of that folder are always up to date as it is the Store folder used by OE. Whenever you backed up that folder it would be current - saves backing up your files to the desktop folders and then backing them up to the external drive.

    I would keep a backup of your email accounts - these are the .iaf files you refer to. As for QQQ files - I am not familiar with them and do not recall seeing such files in OE. Rather than delete rename and see if any issues arise.
     
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    rondom

    rondom Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Pete, its beginning to sink in this old head of mine. You are saying the message store should be in a file on My Documents and to point OE to My Documents with OE closed. I'm having a problem understanding how to follow what that means and how to do it.
    Can you give me detailed instructions to follow?
     
  10. 2010/07/31
    PeteC

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    I am not saying that the Message Store should be in My Documents - I am saying that it is easier and more convenient to ensure a current backup if it is .....

    Create a Directory in My Documents - or elsewhere on your hard drive if you wish and name it Outlook Express or what any other name you want to identify it by.

    With OE closed using Windows Explorer Search search All Files and Folders for *.dbx files - include Hidden files & folders and copy them into the new folder you created (alternatively copy them from your backup folder on the desktop ensuring that the backup is current).

    Open OE and go to Tools > Options > Maintenance tab and click on Store Folder

    The current/default location of the Store Folder is shown in the Store Location dialogue box - click on Change

    In the Browse for Folder window locate the folder you created in My Documents (or elsewhere) - highlight it and click on OK

    The new location for the Message Store is shown in the Store Location dialogue box - click on OK

    OE will flag up 'There appears to be an Outlook Express message store in the folder that you have chosen. Do you want to switch to using that store? If not it will be deleted and replaced with your current store.' - click on Yes

    'Your store location will not be changed until you shutdown and restart Outlook Express' - OK

    Close and reopen OE - check via Tools > Options > Maintenance tab - Store Folder that the new location is displayed.

    OE will now use the folder you created in My Documents as the Store Folder. Backing up that folder to your external hard drive is straightforward - no need to go searching for the original Store Folder and the contents of the folder will always be current so your backup will be current - at the point in time that you back it up.
     
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    rondom

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    Pete, thank you very much. As for the address book, since it is another backup procedure, shall I just make a folder for each identity on My Documents for the backup? Not changed very often so it may be easier. Same for mail accounts file?
     
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    PeteC

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    You can save the address book to the same folder without issue and also your .iaf account files.

    If you feel adventurous you cam move the Address Book to that folder too and OE will reference it there ....

    Move the Windows Address Book

    However if you are not comfortable in editing the Registry let sleeping dogs lie :)
     
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    rondom

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    Pete, it worked beautifully with your great instructions. I did use the folder I had already set up on the desktop with .dbx, .wab and .iaf files and now have them in outlook express in the storefolder. I now have to add another identity (wifes mail). Since OE is already in store, if I switch to her mail, what must I do to add her files. I do have a desktop folder with her same files from her OE? If I can do that, mission will be accomplished. How should I proceed with that?
     
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    I use OE backup. It not only backs up the dbx files and address book, but also related registry keys. You can tell it where to place the backup files

    http://www.oehelp.com/oebackup/default.aspx

    It also restores the backup if needed.
     
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    rondom

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    Pete, after some thought on the second identity, I can just have a second OE folder with my wifes files etc and call it outlook express2 and I can change the store to OE2 to hold another identity. Make sense? Perhaps you might have a better idea.
     
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    PeteC

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    Those were my thoughts too, but Identities are an area I am not familiar with as a single user of OE prior to moving to Outlook.

    I've been otherwise occupied today and not had the opportunity to research. So a question for you - with 2 identities do you have 2 sets of *.dbx files?
     
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    rondom

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    yes Pete, and address books, mail accounts.
     
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    In that case your suggestion should work just fine.
     
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    You have been a tremendous help Pete, thank you very much. Don't know what we would do without you and this website.

    Ron
     
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    PeteC

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    You are most welcome :)
     
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    rondom

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    Pete, I'm sorry but I went back to the email accounts to recheck that what I did was ok and found there were no files appearing when I copied the store and couldn't paste the files. I do have the new OE folders and the files are there when I check them in explorer under My Documents. But when I copy OE and OE 2 in store, I cannot paste. Any thoughts? I did reboot and saw files moving.
     

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