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Resolved Surge Protection?

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by psaulm119, 2010/04/07.

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  1. 2010/04/12
    westom

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    Since his every post is insult after insult, well, he makes claims without numbers. That is how the least intelligent insult educated persons.

    Bill said low voltage (ie disruptive dropout) causes damage. Said a UPS averts that damage. Not true. Bill now denies he posted those myths. So why does he claim in the same post that “disruptive drop outs” cause damage? Because he lies repeatedly. Which is it, Bill? Disruptive drop outs cause damage? Or low voltage does not cause damage? Or maybe, while learning to humiliate, you forgot to learn that low voltage and drop outs are same.

    What is a long duration 'no power' condition? When a UPS relay switches from AC mains to battery power. A problem made irrelevant by design inside every electronic power supply. Contrary to what Bill posts, supplies output uninterrupted power during that long period of no input power. Yes, we who designed (and who are repeatedly slandered by Bill) designed supplies so that output power remains constant during that switchover period. Reality: during 'long' periods of no power, all power supplies must output uninterrupted DC electricity.

    "There are 100s of low voltage events that occur too rapidly for the human eye to see" ... that are irrelevant due to how all power supplies are designed. Those low voltage events are problematic only when the hearsay replaced facts.
    What is a sensitive device? A dimmer switch. 1) If true, then a least robust device - dimmer switch - is destroyed hourly. A communication major trained to denigrate recites myths. Reality: nothing inside a building generates destructive surges - for at least 15 different reasons.

    For example, 2) if an appliance generates a surge, then a first thing damaged is that appliance - where the surge is largest and most destructive. 3) An 'appliance generated' surge is quashed by one 'whole house' protector. 4) If appliances are generating surges, GFCI for that appliance and elsewhere (in kitchen and bathroom) are destroyed multiple times daily. How often are you replacing electronics including GFCIs? Never. Bill says GFCIs and digital clocks must be replaced hourly since appliances create surges. Just another reason why appliance generated surges are hearsay promoted by the least informed.

    5) If destructive voltages are generated, then manufacturer specs list those surge voltages. Why no spec numbers? Bill again posts junk science.

    A flicker (also called low voltage or a destructive drop out) causes surge damage? Amazing a flicker – also called a low voltage – does damage when Bill says low voltage does not cause damage. Which is it Bill? Oh. Only one who lies about electronics knowledge does not know low voltage, a flicker, and ‘drop out’ is the same thing – and not a surge. So which slur will you use to get out of this one?
    Bill has zero electronics knowledge. Suddenly he is a disk drive expert. Bill, my early engineering experience included disk drives with heads moved by motor oil. All disk drives (even those manipulated by oil) had no knowledge of power off until after power disconnected. A disk drive even in the 1960s could be doing anything when power suddenly cut off – without damage. Data not corrupted. Disk heads safely withdrawal. Disk drives in the 1960s did what disk drives still do in 2010. And is not what electronically ignorant ‘experts’ claim. The first time a disk drive learns about power off is after power cuts off. Never causes damage – except where myths replace reality.

    Bill denies that AVR exists inside electronics – to avoid admitting to another myth. How good is that AVR that Bill **knows** does not exist? Engineers even confirm AVR exceeds specs. Tom MacIntyre discusses testing a TV with a particularly robust AVR … that does not exist. In "Motheboard Problem? Post Problem?" in alt.certification.a-plus:
    > We operate everything on an isolated variac, which means that I can control the voltage going into
    > the unit I am working on from about 150 volts down to zero. This enables us to verify power
    > regulation for over and under-voltage situations. A linear supply (many TV's) will start to lose its
    > regulation from 100 volts down to maybe 90, and the set will shut off by 75 volts AC
    > or so.
    > Switching supplies (more and more TV's, and all monitors I've ever seen), on the other hand, are
    > different. ... can and will regulate with very low voltages on the AC line in; the best I've seen was a
    > TV which didn't die until I turned the variac down to 37 VAC!

    Tom MacIntyre measured AVR. Bill **knows** that voltage regulation does not exist. Bill should be believed because the least intelligent appear informed when by denigrating others.
     
  2. 2010/04/13
    Steve R Jones

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    Thanks for sharing but this has gone on long enough;)
     

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