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Slow transfer speed over network

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by MinnesotaMike, 2009/12/17.

  1. 2009/12/17
    MinnesotaMike

    MinnesotaMike Geek Member Thread Starter

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    I am trying to transfer pictures from my XP system to my Windows 7 Home Premium system over my wired network. Between the XP systems, things run fairly quick. But not with 7. When I go to transfer the 47 pictures that I want, it tells me that it will take about 3 hours and 15 minutes. And this is for only 66.7MB of data. Tell me this can get better. Being new to 7, I have no idea where to look for the problem. I tried searching here, Microsoft's site, and the help files on my system. I just can't find a solution. I'm sure it's a little thing that I need to do, but what is it? Thanks.

    Mike
     
  2. 2009/12/18
    Steve R Jones

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    For grins.....If you're sitting at the Win 7 machine and coping FROM the XP machine.....Go sit at the XP machine and copy TO the Win 7 machine to see if it makes any difference.
     

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  4. 2009/12/18
    MinnesotaMike

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    Hi Steve,

    Here is some info, and maybe some you don't need. On the Windows 7 system, I can access all the shared folders on my other systems (all XP). If I go to the network map, my other systems are marked as "The following discovered devices can not be placed in the map. ". I don't know if that is a problem or not. The reason I did that is because I was reading through the Microsoft site on file sharing and that was mentioned. It also mentions a program called LLDT (I think those were the initials), which may be needed on 32-bit XP systems. Do I need that and how do I tell if I have 32-bit XP systems?

    As far as the file transfer, from my XP system, access is denied when I try to access the shared folder for my pictures. Now if I transfer them to the Users/Public/Pictures folder, it will transfer them in just over 5 minutes. still a little slow, in my opinion. Why can I transfer there and not into the folder I want them? If I try to transfer while sitting at my Windows 7 system, the estimated time is 16 minutes.

    The upgrade from 98SE to XP was a lot easier then XP to 7. And here I thought 7 was suppose to be more user friendly.

    Any thoughts on the transfer? I hate the thought of a double transfer every time I want something on my Windows 7 system. Thanks!

    Mike
     
  5. 2009/12/19
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    Hi Mike

    Take a look at this ....
    Share Files and Printers between Windows 7 and XP

    In the process of moving our family Network over to Windows 7.
    Only have one machine switched over. Also building a WHS for the network. My thoughts will be any folders containing media for the family (music, video, family pic's) will be placed in the "Public folders ". Their primary function is to share the connects in a trusted family (not-business or office, needs more security) network. Hopefully after the holidays I can get back on track for this project.
     
  6. 2009/12/19
    MinnesotaMike

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    Hi Dennis,

    Thanks for the link. I had looked through that one before and checked all my settings. The only thing I didn't do was the password on each account in XP. Does that mean that each user account needs to have a password for their account in order to share with the Win 7 system? That seems like a strange condition. Even if I make the changes, the speed should still be much faster. The password only holds the settings, from how I understand that.

    Mike
     
  7. 2009/12/20
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    Quick thought:

    ALL the machines on your network must have the exact same Workgroup name. The "shares" can be anywhere you wish as long as sharing is properly enabled on a given folder. Sounds like you have different Workgroup names so please check.

    Do you have Acronis Home BU installed on any of your xp machines? If you do, their is a bug that prevents the win 7 box from accessing the xp share and I can walk you through the fix.
     
  8. 2009/12/20
    MinnesotaMike

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    Steve,

    Although I was sure the Workgroup name was the same, I double checked. Every system has the same name and the sharing is enabled on the folders/drives that I want access to. Also, no Acronis on any of my systems.

    Mike
     
  9. 2009/12/20
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    Mike, your issue is tough to diagnose since their are so many variables. Try this:

    1. Turn off your Firewall on a temporary basis and see if that cures the issue. You may have more than one Firewall enabled.

    2. Power down/turn off all your computers, your modem and your router. Then:

    wait about 30 seconds
    power on your modem and wait for all the lights to display
    Power on your router and wait for all the lights to display
    Power on your xp machines
    Power on your win 7 machine

    fingers crossed for you. :)
     
  10. 2009/12/22
    MinnesotaMike

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    Steve,

    Sorry for the slow response. It's hard to get all the kids off the computers at the same time. :D I thought your instructions helped. I started everything then turned on my Win7 system. Once it was going, I tried to transfer the pictures again and the transfer took off. Almost immediately, it said that there was 20 seconds left. Then it hit a wall and changed to about 20 minutes. Go figure. I tried transferring into the Libraries group, and the transfer went smooth and fairly quick. I checked my settings for the folders I want to transfer to and they are set as shared. Any other thoughts?

    Mike
     
  11. 2009/12/22
    Steve_S

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    Mike, So your last post means that your issue is fixed? Both ways? I'm a bit confused so please clarify and give us details?

    If your concern is the estimated time on the transfer and how it may change then just pay little attention to it and watch the taskbar for the green thingy/progress color and do something else :) . The timing data is just a windows algo kinda thing making a WAG and then adjusting the estimated time aka WAG as it "learns" how many files and size are involved.

    Could you please edit your My System profile with your win 7 box data which helps all of us and puts a smile on the face of Arie :)
     
  12. 2009/12/22
    MinnesotaMike

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    Steve,

    The problem is not fixed. I thought that maybe it was, but that was very short lived. It is still taking much too long to transfer data over the network. Much longer then XP ever did.

    I'll try to update my system specs tomorrow. I just have so many things going on right now.

    Mike
     
  13. 2009/12/27
    MinnesotaMike

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    Still trying to figure this one out. Here is the results of my latest attempt. I installed the latest network card driver for my system and it did not help. I tried changing the File Sharing Connections setting to 40 or 56-bit encryption, to see if it would make a difference, and that didn't help either. While at that setting, I tried to transfer the pictures again. It started the transfer with an estimated time of 12 minutes. Within a minute, I got a pop up box for one of the pictures. It was the Network Error box that said, "There is a problem accessing \\Kidsdell\f. Make sure you are connected to the network and try again." My options were Retry, Skip, and Cancel. I clicked Retry and it just came back. I tried Skip and the it moved on. The thing is that the estimated time changed to 5hrs and 30 minutes. The speed was listed at about 14kbs/sec. I'm not sure if that helps any. Any thoughts?

    Mike
     
  14. 2009/12/27
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    MinnesotaMike

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    Zander,

    I made the change and, unfortunately, it didn't help. Just to test, I transferred from one XP to another XP. The transfer time was about 3 minutes for the 67MB. That's a big difference.

    On a side note, did you get much snow in the last storm? We ended up with more rain here. Now we get to deal with the ice. :mad:

    Mike
     
  16. 2009/12/27
    Zander

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    Darn, I'd hoped that would be the answer for you. Did you reboot after making the change? I don't know if it's necessary or not but it couldn't hurt to give it a try. Otherwise, I don't know what to tell you. I'll see if I can come up with something.

    As for the weather, well, yeah, we got our fair share of it I guess. The storm wasn't really all that bad as far as storms in the wide open flats in western MN but we did get about a foot of snow out of it. Could have been a lot worse though. The wind blew pretty hard but the temps were such that the snow was rather wet and heavy so it didn't blow around hardly at all. Ordinarily, under those conditions out here........ :)
     
  17. 2009/12/27
    MinnesotaMike

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    Hi Zander,

    I wasn't prompted for a restart, but I went ahead and did it anyways. Yea, it would have been nice if that worked.

    We were forecast for 12-18" here in SE MN. Had it stayed cold, we would have gotten clobbered.

    Mike
     
  18. 2009/12/29
    TonyT

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    Some thoughts:

    1. Connect the Windows 7 cable to a different port on the router, router ports sometimes die a slow death, they function, but gradually die.

    2. Change the network cable that's connected to the Windows 7 comp. Net cables have 8 wires, only 4 are ever use, the other 4 just do nothing at all. But a contact could be bad.

    3. What protocol are you using for File & Print Sharing? TCP/IP Internet Protocol is the fastest for file transfers. Netbeui is good too, but not as fast.

    4. Some Internet security programs and antivirus programs scan LAN file transfers, slowing them down.

    5. On Windows 7, do NOT use the Public folders feature or Homegroup. Just use Home or Work.

    This is how I have my Windows 7 networking setup:
    (in Network & Sharing Center > Change advanced sharing settings)

    Home or Work
    Network Discovery - OFF
    F & P Sharing - ON
    Public F S - OFF
    Media Streaming - disabled in Services
    128 bit encryption
    password protected
    Homegroup - use user accounts and passwords to connect to other comps

    Public: same as above

    On the XP comps:
    Simple File Sharing - OFF
    User accounts added via Comp Management (these users never logon except through the network, thus they do not get User Profiles on the XP comps)
    Manually share indidual folders and/or partitions/drives

    Windows Firewall OFF on all computers.

    Just did a test transfer: 98 MB in 8 seconds.
     
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  19. 2009/12/31
    MinnesotaMike

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    Hi TonyT,

    Here is what I did on your suggestions:

    1) I tried different ports and it didn't help.
    2) I tried 2 different cables and it didn't help.
    3) I use TCP/IP.
    4) In Norton's, I disabled Advanced Protection, Smart Firewall, & Intrusion Prevention. Nothing helped. I plan on replacing Norton's with Avast in the near future. My trial period is almost done.
    5) My network is set to Home

    As far as my settings in my network, I changed my settings to what you have (had to change Network Discovery to off). The Media Streaming is on and, honestly, I can't figure out where to disable it. I tried looking in Services, but I didn't see Media Streaming. There are a couple that I wasn't sure applied to my network though. For Password Protected Sharing, mine is set to off. I want others on my network to have access to my shared folders. On Homegroup Connections, mine is set to allow Windows to manage. The user accounts are different on the other systems. There are no passwords on those accounts however. I set the Public options to match.

    On the XP systems, I can not find Simple File Sharing. I thought it was found in My Computer/Tools/Folder Options/View. It is not listed there. Is it someplace else? I'm not sure how to go about "User accounts added via Comp Management ". I have manually set certain folders/drives to share.

    All firewalls are turned off.

    Transfers are still taking 10+ minutes. I tried the transfer and it said 3 1/2 minutes, so I thought we were making progress. Within a minute, that time changed to 2+ hours. :eek:

    I know I must sound brain-dead about this, and actually I feel like I'm getting that way with all of this. Any more thoughts? Thanks and Happy New Year!

    Mike
     
  20. 2010/01/01
    TonyT

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    Simple Files Sharing is ON by default in XP Home versions. It can be toggled OFF in XP Pro at bottom of list in Folder Options > View Tab.

    Have a look at the adapter settings via adapter properties. You may have to set to full duplex or some other transfer setting.
     

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