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SeaMonkey2 doesn't autologon userID

Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by jpChris, 2009/11/18.

  1. 2009/11/18
    jpChris

    jpChris Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi all,

    I must be missing a step somewhere. When I go to certain sites where I have to logon (here, for example) SM2 doesn't auto add my UserID nor password. I have to manually type the first letter of my logon name and then I get a dropdown box with my logon. I have to click it and then it and my password are entered. It's acting like IE.

    Yet, there's other sites where my UserID and password are automatically entered when I go to the site. Here (WBBS) isn't one of them; although with SM1.1.18 there's no problem.

    What am I doing wrong?
     
  2. 2009/11/18
    Westside

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    I don't know what you may be doing, but this site, never, auto logon with either Firefox or Seamonkey, and it never did, as far as I remember. Other sites, come up with with the UserID and, obvious password, if I selected to save it, but, require me to enter, since I delete cookies on exit. With WindowsBBS, I, first, have to wait a while, then I may have to enter the first or more letters of the UserID, to get the only proper suggestion. And, the password will fill in, If I place the check mark to remember, the password box will empty, after I entered. The UserID and password combination are found in Toos|Options|Security|Saved Passwords of Firefox. For some reason, I found three identical username/passwords in Edit|Preferences|Privacy and Security|Manage saved passwords of SM2.0. In fact WindowsBBS is the only site where this happens, and it is a widespread issue. Google Chrome and Safari do autologon. Try to figure this one!
     

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  4. 2009/11/18
    jpChris

    jpChris Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi Westside,

    OK, when I'm using SM 1.1.18 and I click on the WBBS shortcut or on a link in my e-mail, when I'm taken to this site, my UserID and password are automatically entered into the Login window. I do have to click the Login box, but that's it. With SM2, I have to physically type the first letter on my UserID and then a dropdown box opens and I have to click it: Then my password is entered and then I have to click Login.

    However, with a very few other sites, when I click a link and am taken to the page, my UserID and password are entered automatically.

    There's no consistency with this — some sites yea; some sites nay. Is this a "bug "(?) because it's certainly bugging the c**p out of me.
     
  5. 2009/11/18
    Westside

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    As far as I am concerned, I don't know what bug it would be. I have not succeeded in getting username/password in any of my Firefox/SM. I don't remember about 1.1.8. I uninstalled it. I my case, not only I have to type the first letter, but I have to wait a long time. I may have to type the entire username, if I am in a hurry. And, I have never seen this behavior with any other site. So, to me, it appears related to the website, and Firefox, or SM2.0 (SM2.0 is related to Firefox). I will have to ask around.
     
  6. 2009/11/19
    jpChris

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    Is this supposed to be a "feature" to draw more people to use FF\SM? It's time consuming, annoying, and just a plain old PITA. (MOZ? Are you listening?)

    You stated it: Having to type in your UserID — just like IE.

    With Netscape and SM 1.x on, whatever site you went to that required a logon, the info was automatically entered and all you have to do is click "log in" and it was done. If there's more than one UserID on the site, there's a dropdown box you can select your ID from and just click.

    And, as I stated before, some sites (very few) automatically enter my UserID but the vast majority don't.

    So that begs the question: Why does it act properly in a few places but not the rest???? Sounds like a bug to me.

    I'm going back to 1.1.18. When there's a "fix" for this wonderful New & Improved feature, someone please PM me and I'll try whatever version of SM it got fixed in.
     
  7. 2009/11/20
    Westside

    Westside Inactive Alumni

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    Of course, it is annoying. I go through this every day. I am using Google Chrome, and have had no problem. But, considering that my problem is confined to this website, I am having some difficulty saying that it is program bug. I had the same problem with 1.1.8, which does not appear to be updated. In my case, I get a dropdown with three identical UsererIDs.
    I have posted, elsewhere, but have not seen a reply.
    As for you, if 1.1.18 behaves, use it.
     
  8. 2009/11/20
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    Hi Westside,
    Please forgive me for being such an idiot, but, with 1.1.18 you did goto Password Mangler and delete the extras, right?

    Anyway, I'm in W98 (original, not SE) now and SM 1.1.18 and 98 work flawlessly — as well as XP Pro does. Every site I'm enrolled in that requires a user name and password gets entered automatically when I get to the site. And, like I said, with SM2, only 2 out of 10 gets the info entered.

    Why does it only work on 2 out of 10??? Where's the tweak to make it consistent???

    Not to belabor the issue, but you said you use Google Chrome and you don't have a problem. Then you said the "problem" was confined to this site: SM2 or Google?
     
  9. 2009/11/21
    Westside

    Westside Inactive Alumni

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    1. I never got extras in the Password Manager (call it Mangler, if you wish). The triplicate was, only, in the dropdown, at the website. Would you not think that it is a website issue?
    2. In a previous answer, I said:
     
  10. 2009/11/21
    jpChris

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    Hi Westside,

    Since you're not using SM 1.1.18 anymore, I won't suggest deleting your passwords in Edit\Prefs and re-entering them as needed to see if it's a website issue or SM issue.
    I have to: because of my computing skills it usually Mangles instead of Manages. :p
    Don't feel like the Lone Ranger, Westside. What's easy-as-pie to some is a quantum puzzle to others "” and they don't understand that.
     
  11. 2009/11/23
    Westside

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    The above quotes may be relevant. The moral of the story is that I saw a great similarity in behavior of Firefox and SM2.0.
     
  12. 2009/11/23
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    So, you noticed a similarity between FF and SM2, but not SM 1.x.

    Do you know anyone running TBird? If so, do they have the same problem(s)?

    The last quote: "There may well be a difference in the way that different browsers honor the 'don't save' tag ", leads me to believe that if the "tags" worked properly from NS 4.x to SM 1.18, and FF 1.x on, some little bit of code got left out.

    Shouldn't there be a patch to add it?
     
  13. 2009/11/24
    Westside

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    I don't have any problem with Thunderbird and SM2.0 Mail, as I save username/passwords.
    I quoted someone who knows more than me about these programs, so I cannot make any claims. Code left out? Not necessarily. How about different code. Patch? How, on what? From what?
    And, websites are infamous for making life difficult. It took me two hours to get something done at my wife's work website. It is one of the worst, making it hard to read with any non-IE sites. And, even IE8 shows that the site is written poorly. I was able to get things done with IE8, eventually. As for Seamonkey2.0, it does not have a compatible IE Tab addon, as far as I know, so the IE mode would not be usable.
     
  14. 2009/11/24
    jpChris

    jpChris Inactive Thread Starter

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    I installed the FF IETab on SM 1.18 and it works perfectly. You could try it. The worst thing that'll happen is that it'll say "no can do, mate. "
     
  15. 2009/11/25
    Westside

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    I did not say that IE Tab did not work with 1.1.8. I think, I said that there is no version available for 2.0. At least, up to yesterday.
    But, I found, today, that there is the Coral IE Tab. I tested, and, it works with my wife workplace website, which was locked completely with the Firefox engine.
    To make it work, left click the Firefox icon, to select a switch of the rendering engine, or right click, and select View page in Coral IE Tab. You have four choices.
     
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    jpChris

    jpChris Inactive Thread Starter

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    Correct. However, I was just suggesting to try it with SM2 to see if it works.

    IMNSHO, ITab should be a built-in feature of all Mozilla products.

    p.s. I'm glad you were able to find Coral; it means there's hope for the rest of us. :D
     

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