Licensed Windows XP Mode?

I have problem if install Windows 7:
http://www.helpwithwindows.com/Windows7/Windows_7_Which_Version.html

Feature: Licensed Windows XP Mode :

(Q1) is multi-BOOT? when BOOT, can choose BOOT version 7 or XP ?

(Q2) that feature, if difference version "Professional" and "Enterprise & Ultimate "

(Q3) mean is provide TWO licence? "Windows 7 key" and "Windows XP key ? "

(Q4) what is "Windows XP Mode" , is FREE include "XP CD, SP1, SP2, or SP3 ?


(Q5) windows XP, can choose 32bit, 64bit. Also Version 7 can choose "32bit or 64bit?

Please!

 

Yes - However we do not recommend this type of boot Management, a better alternative is BootItNG with each operation system installed in its own Primary partition. You can still do this from a upgrade DVD.

Recommend Ultimate - others I consider a waste of time.

Obviously you have windows XP ? so you get the Windows 7 key when you purchase the upgrade.

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial155.html

That depends on you Motherboard's Hardware ability.

pcbugfixer

 

To the "Right of Reply" and Democracy!

The "Right of Reply" and Democracy!

To the self appointed Critique who said and posted a negative against my reputation on the, 17th October 2009 22:12 “Please read the uestion. Your answers are plain wrong”

- yes it was the “uestion” that the comment referred to.

Let’s agree that the question as posted by “emia” is a little ambiguous and leaves one pondering as to the real question and origins and as such different interpretation of the questions posted by “emia” can apply and relate to, in accord with one experience.

Point 1. - In the article that was given in the hyperlink in the original post, there is no mention of “multi-Boot” in the article!

This then becomes logical that the reference would be to the “Multi-Boot” Boot Menu as a separate question and appear to have been integrated with the other questions of the article suggesting the environment of the “Multi-Boot” usage.

Point 2. The second question then obviously could refer to the boot menu and if it is available with other Windows 7 versions.

Point 1 and 2 Additional Comment:
The Multi-Boot utility might be sufficient for some, however looking at the related issues that are an integral part of it, and the consequence of any failures in this type of setup, my experience shows that there are better alternatives to using a PC’s on which the User wants to have Multiple Operating systems mounted, and have better options for the management and control of doing so.

Point 3. – Obviously refers to the “Licensed Windows XP Mode” and the question to me was, If 2 licence keys where provided, which is open for debate dependant on how and what is purchased. If “emia” is having problems with installing Windows 7 and needs to know about XP information in relation to Windows 7, I suggest that “emia” might already have the / a key for XP and may be interested in knowing if “emia” gets a second separate XP key.

The Legal interpretation may be Legal however is irrelevant to a User, “Licensed only to use” Ok, so the user gets a Key to activate the License ... – so what, more mumbo jumbo, and as I said is irrelevant to the current issue, I thought the user purchases the Key and as such the Licence.

Point 4. – XP mode is another explanation for the original “Compatibility Mode” i.e. to run XP Application Software currently not supported by W7 in W7 – same or similar as the compatibility mode we have in Vista.

Microsoft has a knack of revamping and generating new names for their software, whereas “Windows XP Mode” is still based on Virtual PC technology and the use as described, I do not think that “emia” will ever get to or use fully and or may not need.

Also “emia” clearly, as indicated by the inference in the other questions, may believe that the XP mode is a separate XP licence with a key which it is not. The link provided in other posts is yet another explanation of the “Windows XP Mode for Windows 7” The one I provided is just as applicable in this instance and also better, I think, explains the installation which may be more beneficial for a User when we do not know the lever of their experience.

Then there is the consequence of using the “Windows XP Mode for Windows 7” or any other “Virtual PC 2007” options and what is or maybe lost if the HDD partition all this is installed on and the OS it is installed under, “crashes”?

Point 5. – This is an open ended question as one operating system is capable of operating under 64bit and the other is not?, when both can operate under x64 depending on how and what is installed.

Having phone MS, to confirm the mode under which XP runs if installed via “Windows XP Mode for Windows 7” under a x64 (64bit) Windows 7 installation, I was informed that in fact it also runs in x64. This however raised further technical questions and I am now waiting for a call back and “Reference” to verify this point and which of the XP x32 or x64 is provided in the “Windows XP Mode for Windows 7”. (# waiting for verification!)

As there is a Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, the final explanation is academic if and when “emia” replies to the posts, and the matter is explained that If Windows 7/64bit is installed, then obviously the “XP Mode“ runs under the same system environment (#).
(# waiting for verification!)

If however XP Pro is installed in a separate partition as a separate OS and ‘emia” wants to have it also run in 64bit (x64) then a separate upgrade for XP is required.

That a 64bit version may be difficult to source is not the current issue, that we can source it is a fact as is the fact that XP can run in 64bit. “Windows XP Pro x64” That MS no longer supports XP is not the issue here!

Installation options as to whether to install Windows 7 x86 or Windows 7 x64, i.e. the 32-bit or 64-bit edition in view of the related issues and compatibilities also play a big part in the final decision of what “emia” decides or may want to do.

Summary:
It does appear that there is a fast difference in the experiences the self appointed Critique and I relate to, where mine maybe with a lot more “Field Experience” over the last 30 years combined with broad IT Qualification and the Critique with “What”?, narrowed exposure limited to and no better alternatives or the lack of “Lateral Thinking” ability and to see beyond the consequence of the current question and path that “emia” is heading down? – So we advised and suggested other options, which the Critique could not see?

One of our Mottos is “Thought of the Day; ‘The possible we did a long time ago, The Impossible we are doing, and Miracles just take a little longer.’”

I have spent many years hearing in the IT Industry that things cannot be done, and a month later everything is being done, today it may only take a few minutes to make things possible when it comes to development on Computer Technology.

All this however is just another way of looking at the question, and as I said before, posting a negative against a member without the members right of reply, seems to be Dictatorial and not in the spirit of a Forum and obviously becomes counterproductive with the limited experience that the Critique may be able to relate to!

NB: (# waiting for verification!) – I will update this as soon as I get the call back from MS. This however does not reflect on any other points I have raised, in that they are still valid as are the options and alternatives I have pointed out.

pcbugfixer

 

In the interest of Better Judgement and Answering the questions Specificall

In the interest of Better Judgement and Answering the questions Specifically!

No! - There is no Boot Menu as such to choose from.
The PC boots into Windows 7 Professional, or Windows 7 Ultimate, x32 or x64 bit, whichever you purchase.
After Installing Virtual PC in Windows 7, you then install Windows XP Mode in the Virtual PC.
Please watch the Support video - An Introduction to Windows XP Mode
Located here - http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/default.aspx
Other videos to watch are “How to Install Windows XP Mode” and “How to Install an Application on Windows XP Mode”.

No! - There is no difference in the Virtual PC and the Windows XP Mode in either Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate and function the same way in either OS platform.

The “Enterprise” version is not available as a Retail or OEM, i.e. not available to Home Users and you would most likely purchase the Professional or Ultimate version.

I have placed a note at the bottom (#) on what the target market is for the different versions that have the ability to load the Virtual PC and Windows XP Mode.

No! – Both the Virtual PC and the Windows XP Mode are supplied FREE by Microsoft if you have purchased any, in your case either, of the qualifying products, i.e. Win7 Professional or Ultimate.

Microsoft does not supply a key or licence as such for any of it’s free applications, that is why they are free. However during the installation of Virtual PC 2007 and Windows XP Mode, you most likely will be asked to agree to either a “Conditions or a Licensing Agreement” Yet there is no license “Key” as you might understand it, issued.

Alternatively however one could say that because you can only get the free application(s) if you have a qualifying product, then the free applications are licensed under that qualifying products licence.

No! – There is no CD supplied, Windows XP Mode is a free download.
Yes! – Windows XP mode is supplied free, as I have already explained. The actual Version of XP that Microsoft has incorporated into the Windows XP Mode, is the x 32 (32bit) versions and at SP3. As Windows XP is being phased out, they tell me that they obviously have no plans to incorporate or ever use the x64 (64bit) version of XP Pro in Windows XP Mode.
NB: please review the next Q5 answers as they are relevant to this one.

No! - To the way you put the question. -This logic is not as simple to explain, however, due to the answer in Q4, that the supplied XP Pro version is a 32bit OS which operates in the Virtual PC environment, the option as you describe is not available, however can be achieved in a different installation method.

Having installed Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate in either x32 or x64, then the OS’s operate in either both x32 or alternatively, x64 for windows 7 and x32 for XP in Windows XP Mode under Virtual PC 2007.

However there are alternatives to the methods of installing and a Boot Menu type structure using a 3rd party Boot menu utility can be utilized to give you the option of separately booting into either XP Pro or Windows 7.

This also then leaves the door open to be able to install both a Windows 7 x64 and a XP Pro x64 bit installation on separate partitions on the same HDD.

This I suggest is a better option for either x32 or x64, as if you only have one Installation i.e. Windows 7 and install Virtual PC and Windows XP Mode under it, and the Window 7 installation crashes, "you loose everything" unless you have an external Backup or Imaging of the partition in place.

Windows XP Pro x64 was only ever available as an OEM, supplied with a new PC by different Manufacturers, however as I have pointed out before, it can still be sourced and purchased if you want to go down that path.

Foot Notes and other relevant Information:

pcbugfixer Comment:
I make no apology for saying or suggesting that “Windows XP Mode” installed on a Windows 7 x64 operating platform, also operated in x64 bit mode, as this seemed logical. The information I based my answer on was verified by 4 different Level 1 Support persons referring the question to other Senior Staff (as a result of 2+ hours of discussions in differ support calls and 1 Lever 2 person) with the final answer given to me by a Sales Support Person at Microsoft, confirming that the XP pro supplied was only a x32 (32bit) operating platform. I then also spoke to a Senior Engineer from Microsoft (old Friend) who confirmed all this.

When you see what "Windows XP Mode" does, you may agree that it is yet a newer fancy term for "Compatibility Mode "

The very last answer (Question) in the FAQ page confirmed this, (so Arie was correct, however not on all point, nor was I)
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/faq.aspx

(#) Windows 7 Professional
This edition is targeted towards enthusiasts and small business users.[15] It includes all the features of Windows 7 Home Premium, and adds the ability to participate in a Windows Server domain.[15] Additional features include operating as a Remote Desktop server, location aware printing, Encrypting File System, Presentation Mode, Software Restriction Policies (but not the extra management features of AppLocker) and Windows XP Mode.[15]

Windows 7 Enterprise
This edition targets the enterprise segment of the market and will be sold through volume licensing to companies which have a Software Assurance contract with Microsoft.[16] Additional features include support for Multilingual User Interface (MUI) packages, BitLocker Drive Encryption, and UNIX application support.[16] Not available through retail or OEM channels, this edition will be distributed through Microsoft Software Assurance (SA).[16] As a result it includes several SA-only benefits, including a license allowing the running of multiple virtual machines, and activation via VLK.[17]

Windows 7 Ultimate
Windows 7 Ultimate contains the same features as Windows 7 Enterprise, but unlike that edition it will be available to home users on an individual license basis.[18] Windows 7 Home Premium and Windows 7 Professional users will be able to upgrade to Windows 7 Ultimate for a fee using Windows Anytime Upgrade if they wish to do so.[8] Unlike Windows Vista Ultimate, the Windows 7 Ultimate edition will not include the Windows Ultimate Extras feature or any exclusive features.[18]

More related information on “Virtual PC and Windows XP Mode.

Windows Virtual PC
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx

Support and Videos
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/default.aspx

FAQ
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/faq.aspx

Support videos
An Introduction to Windows XP Mode
How to Install Windows XP Mode
How to Install an Application on Windows XP Mode

Requirements
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/requirements.aspx

How to confirm your PC can run Windows XP Mode
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/configure-bios.aspx

Virtual PC 2007
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/virtual-pc-2007.aspx

Download Windows XP Mode
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx

Get started with Windows Virtual PC
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/get-started.aspx

More Technical Info and Good Information to look at.
Windows Virtual PC Evaluation Guide
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd744684(WS.10).aspx

That about does it I think.

In future I will only answer the specific questions and not infer more solutions or options!
pcbugfixer

 

Addendums: Additional Information and Observations..

Addendum's: Additional Information and Observations.
To my previous post

Q3. "“ Related.
The Windows XP Mode installation on a qualifying Windows 7 OS, is automatically assigned a Windows XP "ID:" and as such does have a key that is included in the automatic installation. The Key however is not disclosed to you as the Windows XP Mode is supplied to you free. The key is recoverable by Senior Technicians or Advanced users with the knowledge to do so or by using various Utility programs available on the Internet.

Q5. "“ Related / Installing the Virtual PC 2007 and Windows XP Mode.
The installation method advised is a little confusing in logic, in that the instructions on the Win XP Mode Installation suggests to download and install Windows XP Mode first and then download and install Virtual PC 2007, somewhat illogical, however both installation sequences work i.e. Virtual PC first and then XP Mode or vice versa.

The installation itself went relatively smooth, however the Microsoft Update (after using Windows Update first and changing to /installing/ Microsoft Update) had some peculiarities when the update suggested we had "Hidden" some updates which we had not, and then un-hiding these we had difficulties in getting the updates for IE8 to install correctly which disabled our ability to run the Microsoft Update. This we corrected by un-installing the fouled IE8 security updates and re-booting (Closing) the XP Mode and then running the Microsoft Updates again once the XP Mode was loaded again.

Then the fun started in observing that User options and functions in the User Account setting were not the same, the Device Manager had Lots of Device errors and refused to detect or install our additional PCI SATA card and Video Mate (TV) card, etc., etc., ... besides listing 3 "?" in the "Other devises" in the "Device Manager" and all 3 expanded listings with the following text "? Virtual PC Integration Devise" This type of listing i.e. a "?" indicated that the installation cannot identify a device and the drivers for it, which usually also gives a description of the type of device, whereas in this situation all 3 are the same and give the same description other than a different ID in the "Properties -> Detail" which the average User would have no idea about or what the "?" error indicator might mean or how it might affect the XP Mode function of the XP Installation.

- We then stopped and looked at other functionalities of the XP Mode and resolved that for our purposes this was not an option we would utilize, rather we would retain our Boot Menu option to boot into the available operating systems separately. We will however retain the setup for Customer Support purposes.

- Further while investigating this method (XP Mode) and compared it with the "Compatibility Mode" options in Vista, the difference is that Vista presented it in, or as part of the Vista OS system once the options were chosen to install the older software which then integrated into the Vista structure, whereas Windows 7 presents an interface in a virtual mode for a complete XP OS which achieves to do the same thing, i.e. allow you to run Application Software that can only run in XP and is not compatible in Windows 7, "A bit like reinventing the wheel we thoughtâ€.

On this Workstation we also have a normal XP Pro SP3 installation in a separate partition; it has no Device errors and is up-to-date with all drivers and patches with the 131 different Software Applications, Suits and Utilities, installed on it.

You should now have a good idea of the Windows XP Mode and its functionality.

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