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Lost Email Accounts After Upgrading to SeaMonkey 1.1.18

Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by njb, 2009/09/25.

  1. 2009/09/25
    njb

    njb Inactive Thread Starter

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    I just upgraded to SeaMonkey 1.1.18. My bookmarks work fine but my email accounts are gone. I have typically used 2 profiles to try and avoid these upgrade glitches called "upgrade" and "default ", using the "upgrade" profile until everything works again, and then I switch to my "default" profile to go on as usual. This time, however, I was able to import my bookmarks and they worked fine, but there are no email accounts. I copied the new chrome.rdf file from the new installation (upgrade profile) to my default profile and I still did not have any of my existing email accounts. I also tried copying my "default" mail folder to the "upgrade" profile and still no luck.

    Can someone please help me to resolve this?:eek:
     
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    It appears to me that you are not following the simplest approach . When I upgrade, all I do is to install the new, and uninstall the old version, if necessary. The profiles do not change, and there is no need to import anything, provide you use the bypass trick.
    I never messed with the chrome.rfd file.
    I, also, use two profiles, but for entirely different reasons. I have a different array of bookmarks, and different mail accounts.
     

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  4. 2009/09/25
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    I am unclear on what you are proposing, Westside. Should I install the upgrade again, right click on the Seamonkey desktop icon, select Properties, click on the Shortcut tab and put in the follwing string:
    C:\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe -p profilename (Should I use "default" for the profilename or create a new one?)

    Please be more specific.
     
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  5. 2009/09/25
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    Hi again,
    I just solved it and hope that others will learn from my mistake in case they encounter a similar difficulty. I went to a recent backup of my C drive and restored my old prefs.js file from the backup to my existing default folder and my accounts are now restored. You just have to re-enter your password(s) wen initially checking your email.

    I would like to know how to avoid this problem with future upgrades, however. Suggestions are welcomed.
     
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    You are correct that it is important to backup the prefs.js file, for eventual future use.
    Maybe, I did not emphasize that it is unnecessary to do what you do. The program needs a profile, but the profile does not need to be updated with the new version of a program.
    It is essential not to use one profile with more than one version. It is optional to have more than one profile/version, and totally unnecessary to do what you do. If a new version has small changes, the same profile is fine. I have a profile called SM1.1.14, created, initially, for v.1.1.14. I am using this profile for my v.1.1.18, with no problem, nor changes.
     
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    For what it's worth, Here is how a cantankerous old man does it.

    I don't much like doing it other peoples way and prefer "Doing it My Way "

    SeaMonkey since version 1.5 has been my default browser and mail program and all my SeaMonkey Profiles are installed on a secondary Hard Drive in the path of D:\PROFILES

    SeaMonkey is installed on C: Drive in the path of C:\2-NET\SM-118

    AND, I might should tell you Firefox is in C:\2-NET\FF-??? and Thunderbird is in C:\2-NET\TB-??? -- I even have C:\2-NET\SM-ZIP which holds a Zipped version of SeaMonkey.

    Note: I preface some folders with a number to make them line up in an order in the stack of my choosing.

    After downloading the new version of SeaMonkey I use Control Panel and remove the old version.

    After removing, I use Windows Explorer and delete any remaining files or folders in the SM-??? folder and rename it to the new version number which is currently SM-118

    I then use START - RUN and install the new version of SeaMonkey from within the folder I saved it too.

    The new version of SeaMonkey has always picked up all the profiles on Drive D:\ that were listed in the recently removed version.

    In simply terms all I find necessary is remove the old and install the new and SeaMonkey will find the Profiles which contains the bookmarks, mail etc., etc.

    I don't understand the reason for doing it any other way.

    Removing the old is not even necessary but, I think it is the preferred and safest way.

    If I did not have a second hard drive then I would install my profiles in a folder in the path of C:\PROFILES simply because I don't want to wade through all the Microsoft garbage to get to my profiles and the mail folders.

    I have another personal quirk that causes me to create a new Profile for each year and I simply name them by the year such as RAY-2008 or RAY-2009.

    I do this because it clears out the clutter for a new year and saves all of last years mail in the RAY-200? profile folders. Any years mail I want to review I simply load that years profile.

    While at it and since I just had a phone call today from one of our forum Users, Far too many don't yet understand the need to stop overloading the Inbox or the Sent box as Ramona has explained in "Preventive Browsers Maintenance" at http://home.att.net/~cherokee67/prevmaint.html.

    To stay out of trouble I make sub folders and name them with 09-01 for January and 09-02 for February and so on and so forth. Again my method of naming is to make the folders line up in order. At the end of each month I move the mail for that month to the appropriate sub folder. I believe this approach keeps me out of trouble because I seldom have a problem with lost mail or compacting the mail folders.

    BTW, I also delete the Default Profile and it's associated folders.

    My 2 Cents, Ray
     
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  8. 2009/09/26
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    Thanks Ray, good suggestions for the future.

    Since I have read that Seamonkey 2x has a different file structure, I am hopeful to avoid any mishaps when upgrading to it in the future when bugs are worked out.
     
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    I have been testing Seamonkey2.0, since it became available as a nightly (I download the .zip file, and, after unzipping it, I run it directly. There is no need for installation, so I just delete the entire old download). Seamonkey2.0 may create problems, if you assume that it is going to be like the present 1.1.x. I use the same plugins folder for either v.1.1.x or 2.0. it is installed
    The plugins folder is very important, so it should never be deleted after an update, if nothing else for convenience's sake.
    If a profile different from default is used, Seamonkey will not find it. There is no problem with the profiles getting mixed up between v.1.1.x and 2.0, as they use different directories. I don't remove old profiles, at least not for a long while, but save them as a sort of backup. I keep my Seamonkey1.1.x in an old directory called Mozprofiles, outside the standard location. The Mozprofile folder goes back to the Netscape7 and Mozilla suites' days, and is easy to find. A new profile should take into account some simple rules as far as which file should be copy/saved, and which one should not.

    It will take in some features from Firefox, as a browser. I have not seen much difference in mail.
     
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    Westside, I went to the SeaMonkey Web Site and could not find a ZIP version of 2.0 to download.

    Where are you getting the ZIP version. I thought I might take a look at it if that is going to be the SeaMonkey of the future.

    Thanks, Ray
     
  11. 2009/09/29
    Westside

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    I was able to find a link at the Seamonkey website, mainly, because I knew what I was looking for. I, also, had it as a bookmark, entered in my Seamonkey2.0, it seems centuries ago.
     
  12. 2009/09/30
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    Thanks for the info Ray. It especially interesting that one can use Seamonkey 2.0 without an install to possibly ***** things up.

    Two questions:

    1. Where would I find my current plugin folder that Seamonley or Firefox currently use (name of folder and path)?

    2. How have you been able to use Google's Chrome Browser if your operating system is XP and not Vista?
     
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  13. 2009/09/30
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    Thanks for the link, Westside. It's good to see that you acn experiment with Seamonkey 2 without installing it and possibly conflicting with my current version of Seamonkey.

    I have 2 questions:

    1. I did a search (using "plugin ") with my file manager and could not find the current plugin folder that Seamonkey or Firefox uses. Where might I find it (foldername & possible path)?

    2. How are you able to use Google's Chrome browser if your os is XP and not Vista?
     
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  14. 2009/10/01
    Westside

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    1. I don't think that SM2.0 would conflict with 1.x. It is located in a different directory, and uses a different profile. However, the two versions may not be on at the same time.
    2. I did a Search entering: plugin or plugins, and got several hits. No quotation marks.
    3. I am not aware that Google Chrome cannot be used with XP. My OS, surely, does not not seem to know. I did a search, and came up with several hits. However, some people seem to have had problems.
     
  15. 2009/10/01
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    Thanks:)
     
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    FWIW.

    Most files for "SEAMONKEY" can be found here:
    Here

    You may have to drill up/down and look for them.

    HTH

    captjlddavis
     
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