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Resolved Replacing Hard Drive Circuit Board

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by mechanic, 2009/07/13.

  1. 2009/07/13
    mechanic

    mechanic Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hi,

    My Seagate 7200.9 hard drive recently died. 80GB. I got the blue screen with the "drive not recognized" error message.
    I checked the power supply and cables, and they all look good, so it is likely the drive electronics are shot.
    If I get another of the same drive, same model, with the same firmware
    and I replace the electronic board, will it come back to life? I am confident about soldering it on, but am unsure whether this is a fix or not.
    If I cannot do this myself due to drive firmware issues, is there a shop
    where they do this kind of stuff, and how would I find them?
    I would appreciate any suggestions you may have.

    Thanks,
    Old Mechanic
     
  2. 2009/07/13
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    In theory if you can find another drive which is identical in every respect then what you suggest is possible given the necessary skills re soldering, etc, but in practice ????

    I very much doubt you would find a repairshop capable or willing to take on that task - you can but try. The simple way of recovering your data - I guess you have no backup :( - is to throw $$$ at the drive through a data recovery service.
     

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    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff

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    Then there's the part where: "drive not recognized" could be the platter/heads/mechnical parts are dead and that the circut board is fine.
     
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    The IDE or Sata cable may look good, but be bad. Try an another cable. The same with the power plug.
     
  6. 2009/07/14
    mattman

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    Get the drive's testing utilities from the HDD manufacturer's website. Only a proportion of drives are bad when I have seen the "drive not found ", a lot of the time it is a problem with the MBR (Master Boot Records). The utilities might be able to repair the MBR.

    If the utilities "see" the HDD and you don't need to recover data, the utilities should be able to repartition and format the drive.

    The possibilities are:
    the MBR is corrupt
    the platters drive motor is broken
    the read heads drive system is broken
    the circuit board is a goner

    Matt
     
  7. 2009/07/14
    Arie

    Arie Administrator Administrator Staff

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    Arie,
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    Rockster2U

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    mechanic,

    Several of the best minds on this board have encouraged you to exhaust all other possibilities before concluding that this is a HDD PCB (controller) problem. I'm in total agreement unless there is considerably more to this problem that you have not shared with us.

    As to replacing the controller, with most drives one doesn't need to have any soldering skills or for that matter, equipment. It's simply a matter of removing screws, unplugging the old controller and plugging in an identical substitute. This is a modular component that can be changed out quite easily.

    ;)
     
  9. 2009/07/18
    mechanic

    mechanic Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hi,
    Thank you all for the inputs. On thing I forgot to mention is that I am looking to retrieve some data off the drive, if it can be temporarily repaired.
    I have it mostly backed up, but there are some more recent files I would like to get off the disc if I can do it myself. If it doesn't work out, I have learned
    a lesson about performing more frequent backups.

    So here is where I am at:
    - I replaced the cables, did not help.
    - I tried the Seagate disc utility. ( Seatool DOS). It scanned and did not see the drive at all.
    - The drive does not spin at all. When it failed, it did not get noisy or anything, I just got an instant error message.
    - I bought another hard drive and installed it, it works fine. (So I am in the process of installing all my software, and have XP up and running.) So
    the cables and MB are indeed OK.

    I also read that 30% of the drives returned to Seagate are not actually damaged, so I am appreciative of the suggestions to double check the basic stuff before getting into a potentially complicated and unecessary repair.

    Are there any other tests I can perform before declaring the drive dead?
    If it is indeed shot, I am still thinking about swapping the circuit board, as I can get one really cheap on Ebay.

    Thanks,
    Old Mechanic
     
  10. 2009/07/19
    Barbara-Ann

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    mechanic - I had the same thing happen with a Seagate External Hard Drive.
    I called Seagate and the customer service rep found me the identical controller board with the same firmware (very important) in England.
    After ordering it, it took almost 2 weeks to arrive. I ******* it onto the dead HD, placed it into the external case and hooked it up.
    It worked and I was able to remove all data necessary.\

    Good luck!
     
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    mattman

    mattman Inactive Alumni

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    If you can get exactly the same model HDD it sounds like it is worth trying.

    The manufacturer's (Seagate) utilities are the best I know that could recognise/see the drive, although you say it does not spin up.
     
  12. 2009/08/05
    mechanic

    mechanic Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hard Drive Circuit Board: Fixed

    Ok Guys, here is where I did about the hard drive:

    I went online and did some research on hard drive recovery. There is an
    interesting guy on YouTube who does forensic recovery with lots of info.
    The deal is that you are supposed to get a board from a hard drive of exactly the same part number, with exactly the same firmware, made in the same country, and also (!) around the same manufacture date.

    So I looked around for a week online and an ebay aution came up for my
    exact drive, which was a miracle, except the guy wanted $40 which is more than my new drive cost. And $15 shipping, etc. And sold "as is ". ( Ripoff? )

    I bought it, and scanned it with that Seagate Tool for DOS you recommended. Thee drive itself was filled with errors, but the electronics looked to be working.

    I switched over the circuit board ( no soldering required as you noted ) onto my old drive, and the drive spun up and worked fine. (yeah!) I am not going to use it as a drive though, not after it failed. Saved my files and
    removed to storage. Also, there seems to be a potential for errors from bit error corrections stored on the drive firmware from the replacment drive.

    So, I appreciate the info earlier, as much of it was indeed useful !

    VBR
    Mechanic
     
  13. 2009/08/06
    Arie

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    Thanks for posting back, & congrats on the positive outcome! $55 is a bargain compared to the cost if you'd have to get a professional recovery company to recover your data :D

    I've marked this thread as 'Resolved'.

     

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