New Hardware, Old Software

They didn't ....KernelEx adds a page to the property sheet which gives a selection of compatiblity modes, or you can disable kernelex extensions ....

 

I believe you could find a Socket 478 motherboard that will work well with 98, I have one myself. It will support these Intel processors at these speeds.

Intel Pentium 4 (1.4 - 3.4 GHz)
Intel Celeron (1.7 - 2.8 GHz)
Celeron D (2.13 - 3.2 GHz)
Intel Pentium 4 Extreme Edition (3.2, 3.4 GHz)

 

Can you give me some more detail about that? Would it be possible to "switch off" all but the first 512 MB of RAM for when I'm using W98?

Regards,

Henipatra

 

I have no idea how to "switch off" RAM, other than by removing it.

Go here.

In my experience, Win98 will install perfectly with 1.25 GB of RAM, but when booting, it doesn't even get to the loading screen before simply rebooting.

 

A Pentium 4 and the others are hardly what I'd call new hardware.

Sincerely,

Henipatra

 

OK, thanks.

Take care.

Henipatra

 

I am not sure what you are saying.

What we are saying is that Pentium 4 era systems will be the most recent that offer support (read drivers) for Win 98. Windows 98 does not have any capability to work with dual or multiple core CPU's. You won't have manufacturer's drivers for the chipset and if you manage to get it installed using "standard" drivers, it will probably run like a 1990 IBM 386.

 

A Pentium 4 will be more than enough to run anything under 98, and besides, you're always going to be held back by the 512 MB of RAM issue, as the official Microsoft fix actually involves you being able to partly boot the PC, which in my experience was impossible.

 

I'm still milking 98SE for all it's worth on my garage PC until I can't use it no more. It's got a 500MGZ processor and some odd memory config (192MB or 256MB) and around a 5 gig hardrive, I threw together with junk parts.

Works just fine for listening to internet radio while I work on my cars. My favorite being 104.3 Gold in Melbourne (I see your from OZ, thought I'd mention that).

I've taken in several disgarded PCs and use them in my garage. I don't want to put some "good" computer out there that is suseptible to the high humidity here in the southeastern US, spider webs, dust, etc.

As far as surfing the web with it. My only concern is contracting something that might spread through the network to my XP machine in my den. And the fact allot of websites are starting to "shun" IE6 which is the highest version of IE available for 98SE.

So far Microtrend's housecall is the only tool I have found that can check the PC for virus' or malware.

If I do get a virus or something and it just effects this PC so what? I can just reload Windows. With XP you can't do that. One copy only works with one computer. Or if you use it one too many times that copy no longer works.

But it's getting to the point where one day 98SE will be as useless as 95 is when it comes to the internet. YouTube says they will soon no longer support IE6 to watch their videos. I don't know how because their videos go through Adobe flash player.

So I installed an earlier version of Firefox that will run on 98SE. Their latest version won't. I don't get the warning from YouTube but can't install any plug-ins to listen to internet radio.

Eventually people will be disgarding PCs with XP so when that time comes I won't worry to much about it. As long as I get the restoration CD that came with the PC, it shouldn't be a problem.

The only two things I like about XP is it's wireless capability and how it handles USB devices especially thumbdrives. Otherwise 98SE I think works better than XP.
Not as much of a memory hog either...

 

I have no idea why you still run IE6, when the latest versions of Opera, for example, work fully on 98 (and I run Opera on 98)

 

Malware, you usually invite that into your system yourself by clicking on something that appears to be seemingly harmless.

What about hacking? Do you think you are going to get a message "Hello there, I'm hacking your system ". People jump up and down that an old hard drive needs to be smashed to pieces. I don't worry about that because I don't keep anything important on my computer, but I do worry about hacking.

If you look at what "critical" updates are about, they are pretty much all have "exploitation ", "allows an attacker ", "take control ", etc, etc. They aren't being patched any more in 98.

Read about DoS attacks. The computer owners didn't have any idea their that system was being used. I don't want my system used like that. Spammers use the same type of exploitation. You might well be making some other internet user's experience a misery without even knowing it.

Connecting 98 to my network? Not on your life. As markp62 said, it's got major holes in it.

Matt

 

I haven't used Opera browser in years. It came to mind the other day but never thought about it. Does it support allot of Windows plug-ins?

 

I wouldn't know, what I do know is that it works perfectly on 98.