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check disk for consistency and chkdsk problems

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    I had just switched on my laptop and opened up some internet pages. Avast was doing the daily updates when the whole thing froze up. I couldn't click on anything or even do ctrl-alt-delete. All I could do was press the on button to turn it off then back on. When it started up I got a message about a zlclient.exe corrupt file.
    C: \Windows\system32\zonelabs\lib\oem_1460.zip.dll corrupt and unreadable run chkdsk utility.

    Should I remove and reinstall zonealarm or do I need to run the chkdsk utility first? I tried to run chkdsk in readonly mode. (typed cmd thenchkdsk)
    It said warning F parameter not specified. chkdsk is verifying files(stage 1 of 3)
    file verification completed.
    deleting orphan file record segment 39800, 39801, 39802, 39803.
    errors found. CHKDSK cannot continue in read-only mode.

    When I tried restarting laptop it says needs to check for consistency then says disk checking has been cancelled before it starts to run. I have clicked nothing to stop it.

    How can I restart the laptop and get it to run the chkdsk for consistency? As you might know I am not very good with all the techie side of things. I am using xp.
     
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    Welcome to WindowsBBS :)

    This sounds like a failing hard drive - are you able to start in Safe Mode?
     

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    I am just backing up a 2nd time all documents before trying it. Can you back up programs too or will they be on the recovery disk? I will then check safe mode. That sounds very bad news would I be best to ring the computer shop to look at it incase I do more harm?
     
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    No - you cannot backup installed programs - apart from the files in Program Files there are many other files installed by a program in Windows and many entries in the registry. A Recovery disk will revert the computer back to the as delivered state, so if the programs were originally on the computer when bought - probably/maybe :)

    It sounds as if the computer does boot, so once you have backed up your data run chkdsk from a command prompt ....

    Start > Run > type in cmd > Enter

    A Command window opens - at the flashing cursor typy cd\ followed by Enter.

    You should now be at the C:\ prompt - at the flashing cursor type chkdsk /r followed by Enter.

    You will get a message to the effect that chkdsk cannot be run as the disk is in use - run at next boot - type y followed by Enter and reboot.

    Chkdsk should run.
     
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    Thank you very much pete. Will I do that in safe mode or just as normal? I tried that and the blue chkdsk screen came up said it would start to check disk then said disk checking has been cancelled. Could it be in the startup menu that it has been stopped from running? When a friend was setting up the wireless router I got him to stop some programs from running at startup could chkdsk be one of them?
     
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    I doubt the result would be any different in Safe Mode, but if you have not tried - do so.
    Unlikely.

    Do you know which startup items were disabled - 3rd party programs - not Microsoft items?

    I suspect that Zone Alarm may be the culprit - completely uninstall it and try running chkdsk again.

    If chkdsk completes re-install Zone Alarm - check for the latest version rather than re-installing the existing version - I'm guessing that you are using the freeware version?

    Another way of running chkdsk ....

    If you have a retail XP CD - a Recovery CD will not do - you can run chkdsk /r from the Recovery Console
     
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    I uninstalled zone alarm then restarted twice and both times chkdsk wouldn't work. When chkdsk runs this comes up.
    checking file system on C:. The type of file system is NTFS. one of your disks needs to be checked for consistency. You may cancel the disk check but it is strongly reccommended you continue.
    Disk checking has been cancelled.
    Windows has finished checking the disk.

    I have installed the latest zone alarm to be able to go online but it still says about the zone labs file being corrupted.

    Will the chkdsk run from the disk if it keeps cancelling itself this way?
    Do you still think my hard drive is failing or can it be saved?
     
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    I think there may be problems, but by no means certain.

    Did you have the opportunity to use the Recovery Console approach?

    Download and run SIW and look under Hardware > Storage Devices - the make and model no. of your drive should be shown. Then download the manufacturer's disk diagnostic software - most have a version that create a bootable floppy or CD ....

    Disk Diagnostic Software ....

    ExcelStore

    Hitachi/IBM

    Samsung

    Seagate, Maxtor, Quantum

    Western Digital

    If you have a Toshiba drive you are out of luck regarding diagnostic software.
     
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    I think it may possibly - try if you are able.
     
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    I have to go out soon so will have to leave it till tomorrow. Thank you very much for your help. I have the operating system disk. It is the reinstallation cd windows xp professional service pack 2. I also have the dell drivers and utilities disk. Is that the right one? I have always been scared to use that disk as I don't want to wipe all off.

    Disk 0 is seagate model ST9120822AS
     
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    You require SeaTools for DOS to test the drive - tutorial on the page as well as the download.

    I assume you have a Dell who normally provide a full installation CD rather than a Recovery CD - the drivers disk backs up this.

    If in any doubt as to what to do - just ask :)
     
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    thanks alot. Yes I have a dell vostro. the disk says operating system already installed on your computer. It says reinstallation cd. Will I try to run the dskchk from the disk before testing the drive? If I put that cd in it won't overide what I already have will it?
     
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    ok ready to try again do i use the operating system reinstallation cd or the drivers and utilities one please?
     
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    I suggest you run SeaTools for DOS from a bootable CD - instructions on the site (my post #11) rather than the Recovery Console at this stage.

    Footnote ....

    To run the Recovery Console you boot from the Installation CD as outlined in Option 2 here Then follow the instructions given under 'Using the Command Console within Windows Recovery Console' - you will need your Administrator Password - and at the C:\ prompt type chkdsk /r followed by Enter.
     
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    Thank you very much. ok I am just burning the cd now.

    If errors are found and it asks to fix them will I cancel that and post results here? I have all backed up so loss of data is not a problem. How do I get it to run the graphical version the text version looks complicated.
    Once I have booted the scan from the cd when i remove the cd and reboot as normal will it start up properly my os won't be gone will it?

    I booted up with the cd in and it just booted into windows. Under troubleshooting it says the "boot sequence" may be set to boot to the hard disc drive first.
    To change the boot sequence to boot from the CD drive first you must enter the "Setup" or "CMOS Setup" of your computer. Methods for entering the Setup or CMOS Setup vary depending on your computer's make and model, but most methods consist of pressing a key or key sequence during the initial power on boot sequence.

    Would i need to be in the safe mode to do that?
     
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    ok I ran (finally I hear you say!!) SeaTools for DOS short test passed, completed without error
    Then I ran the long test 2 errors were detected block no 156244351 and 156244352.
    I wanted to ask you before fixing them incase that did any harm. Will I run again and fix them or not? Do you know what those mean? Sorry it took so long to get that far.
     
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    right errors fixed. Then it restarted and still got the screen with chkdsk cancelling.
    Is that repair installation actually reloading xp on again? Do you think my hard drive is ok now and that it is xp that is having the problem?
    Yes I have ie7.
    When using that disc will it tell me what to do or could I wipe off everyting and not know what to do next? What worries me is if I try it and get stuck I won't have internet access to ask for help. Will my data still be there after doing that? Dell has a a diagnostic on the boot menu would that just be like seatools or should I try running it?

    I typed in at cmd chkntfs c: as I saw on another posting on here. It said C: is dirty. You may use the /C option to schedule chkdsk for this drive.
     
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    Yes :)
    Yes, it would appear so.
    Yes, but without losing any settings, programs, data, etc. You have a backup of your date just in case :)
    If you follow the instructions in ....

    How to perform a repair installation of Windows XP if a later version of Internet Explorer is installed first to remove IE7 and then follow the instructions in Repair of XP you will not wipe everything from the drive.
    There is no harm in running it, but the drive has been given the all clear and I would not expect any other hardware problems. SeaTools only checks the drive.

    If the repair is successful - which I hope it will be - don't forget to visit Windows Update.

    Important

    I suddenly realised that you will be unable to effect a Repair install if the Service Pack on the CD is not the same as the Service Pack on the computer, i.e. if you have SP3 installed you cannot repair with an SP2 CD.

    Before you do anything ....

    Check under Control Panel > System - General tab for the SP installed - shown under System.

    Check in Add/Remove Programs for an entry Windows XP Service Pack 3 (or 2).

    Check the Dell reinstallation disk for the Service Pack level - it is unlikely to be SP3 unless the computer is fairly new.

    Post that information back before proceeding with a repair.
     
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    bad news yet again.
    Disc says xp professional service pack 2.

    system says xp prof version 2002 service pack 3

    on add/remove programs it is windows xp service pack 3

    grrrrrrrr. I think it is my fault for not doing windows updates for a while. I always had them automatic til ie8 came out and I didn't want it to upgrade to it automatically. There is a root certificate update there I haven't added yet.
     
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