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Resolved Bootup does not finish anymore

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by LarryB, 2009/05/27.

  1. 2009/06/17
    Lukeno1

    Lukeno1 Well-Known Member

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    In theory, no, but my experience is otherwise (however, that WAS with a different copy of XP to replace the existing one, and yours should be an identical copy to the existing one).
     
  2. 2009/06/17
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    It WAS an identical copy. There is some kind of 120-day requirement and I have read somewhere that there are 2 specific files that can be copied over to the new install that bypasses that. Ring a bell at all??
     

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  4. 2009/06/18
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    OMG, one more thing. Will Windows Update "know" that my SP2 install is bare or will it still detect that I had been fully updated up until recently? Thanks.
     
  5. 2009/06/19
    Rockster2U

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    Lar,

    I wouldn't be concerned about this at all. You should be able to validate your new installation automatically but even if that were to fail (highly unlikely), you can still do a phone validation. Microsoft is very accomodating in this regard.

    Most problems occur when one uses an installation CD that is "mis-matched ". Specific examples would include using a Gold Volume User CD on a machine that originally used an OEM CD or using a vendor specific (Dell, HP etc) CD on a machine that originally used an OEM CD. Even then, Microsoft is more than fair to most users who can't get past the automatic validation.

    As to updates required after the installation, Windows Update is going to scan your current installation. Whatever you had previously installed for patches or security updates will have no bearing on this whatsoever.

    In summation, your fears are unfounded. Did you ever get that "other" CD we had discussed?

    ;)
     
  6. 2009/06/19
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    That is excellent news. Thanks. I still have not been able to independently confirm the state of the PCIe video card beyond that from MSI. When it comes to newer mainboards (SATA/PCIe) in my little circle, I stand alone. Esp when upwind.:D
     
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  7. 2009/06/21
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Well I am at my first challenge... of course, probably because of a mistake. I named my own user ID wrong... Dad instead of the original Larry.

    I copied all of my dbx files over to the right location but the emails do not show up. Also, my custom folders are nowhere to be found. Is the user ID issue why that is happening??

    My wife's dbx files transferred beautifully (same ID as before).

    Oh, I tried changing my user ID but that only changes the ID, not the directories and folders. So, I made a new ID (Larry, just like before) and copied the dbx folders again but it STILL does not show my old emails.

    I also tried importing the messages from within OE from a desktop folder of the dbx files and the importing was successful but with no benefit.

    Hmmmm. My old dbx files are a lot larger than the new ones. I also had made a lot of personal folders in my OE to store the emails in a more organized fashion and to try to keep the folder sizes down. None of those personal dbx files were listed by Knoppix in the original OE folder of my suspicious HDD. Are non-standard dbx files stored elsewhere?

    The folders that I saved from the old OE folder acct are Deleted Items (8.2Mb), Folders (74Kb), Inbox (8.7Mb), Offline (10Kb), Outbox (971Kb), pop3uidl (74Kb) and Sent Items (1.4Mb).

    As a test, I created a TEST folder in the new OE. Then I did a search for it in Documents and Settings... and it does not show up anywhere. All of the others did, though. The search was for *test*.* and nothing even remotely related was found. So, it does not seem to be a user ID issue, after all. Then what??

    I also went back into Koppix to confirm that I did get all of the dbx folders in the correct folder and I did. Rebooting did not help, too.

    Thanks, Larry
     
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  8. 2009/06/21
    Rockster2U

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    Here's where we are probably going to need some expertise from PeteC or another scholar on the intracacies of Outlook Express. For starters, your folders are way to big (deleted items and inbox in particular) but you are going to counter that they worked before. I'm told 2MB is a safe threshold in total although I know mine are considerably larger.

    I've always used my same name and set up OE on the new drive before trying to transfer anything. That will establish your basic folders. Then I've just copied and pasted all of my old DBX files to the new drive and it will over write the basic folders with whatever.

    Not knowing what to tell you, I'm going to defer to Pete and ask that any others chirp in.

    I will throw one more at you with caution. Please backup the registry entry I'm giving you before doing this. Navigate to HKCU > Software > Microsoft > Internet Account Manager and look at the entries in the 00000001 , 00000002 & etc. You may be able to change your Dad to Larry there and provided you are backed up, you may be able to delete an entire sub key and start from scratch - I don't know so make darn sure you have your backside covered before you start playing around there.

    In addition to backing up individaul entries, if you haven't installed erunt - do it before trying this and backup your entire registry.

    Good Luck Lar
    ;)

    Edit from #89 - 2MB above should be 2 Gigs. Thanks Pete .....
     
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  9. 2009/06/21
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hi Rock, man oh man. I fired up the questionable 2nd HDD and it works fine. XP, of course, will not let me into the old Documents and Settings\Larry folder but when I searched the c:\ drive I got all of my dbx folders listed, including my personal ones like Computer, Humor, etc. Funny how they did not show on Knoppix at all. So, I copied them to the Shared Computer folder and pasted them into the new OE and they do not show up when you run OE, as well.

    I reread my last post and decided that the 6th paragraph was a mess. So, I edited it in the hopes that the mess makes a little more sense (to someone beside me).

    Thanks for stopping by, Lar
     
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  10. 2009/06/22
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    Let me first correct the following statement....
    The quoted maximum file size of a .dbx file is 2 Gb, although OE will start to play funny long before then ....

    Information about the maximum file size of the .dbx files that are used by Outlook Express

    Larry

    Looking at your file list it would appear to be incomplete - there should be a .dbx file for each of your personal folders and check that none of them have inherited the 'read only' attribute. All .dbx folders are stored in the same location.

    The method Rockster posted should work fine - I used that method to synchronise my laptop with the desktop when going away and vice versa on my return - with one difference....

    To facilitate easy backup of my OE files and other data on the desktop - done hourly, I relocate the store folder on another drive -the same drive is OK - just make a folder, say Outlook Express, copy the .dbx files into it and point OE to it under Tools > Options > Maintanance - Store folder.

    You might try that with your saved .dbx files.
    Suggesting that the old file import failed.

    I assume you are moving these files around, etc with OE closed - except when using the Import function?

    When you created a new identity check that you followed the steps outlined in Create a new identity

    I would not suspect a problem with OE as your wife's identity apparently works OK.

    Regardless of the Permissions set on the .dbx files you should at least be able to read them so I would not see a problem there.

    Does your new identity function correctly otherwise?
     
  11. 2009/06/22
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Well now, I have stumbled (as usual) into a interesting fact.

    It has been a well documented that the dbx files should exist in C: > Documents and Settings > your user name > Local Settings > Application Data > Identities > {a string of numbers} > Microsoft > Outlook Express.

    I just did a dbx search on the old, suspicous G drive and the pathname for my dbx files came up as windows > Application Data > Identities > {a string of numbers} > Microsoft > Outlook Express. All of my OE dbx folders are there including my MANY newsgroup dbx files. The main folders and all of the subfolders are there without any directory structure hierarcy. So now what?

    If I just paste them into the proper folder will the Folder.dbx file take care of the hierarcies? What about the newsgroup dbx files?

    Lauries personal folders (that I forgot about) are in there, too, but with a different (string of numbers).

    I have not created a new identity within my OE. Laurie and I both use the Main Identity within our own OE.

    OH, I also checked the new Windows install (from the same ol' XP disc) and there is no such thing as a Windows/Application Data folder.
     
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  12. 2009/06/22
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    That is normal - the directory hierarchy is contained in folders.dbx and is revealed only in OE.
    That was the location in Win 95/98/Me - did you upgrade from any of those OS's to XP?

    Are the .dbx files you found in that location current?
     
  13. 2009/06/22
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hi Pete,

    My XP was a new install 3 years ago on a new build. No upgrades. Weird, huh. The dbx files from my last XP install (before the OS or HDD went bad on me) are apparently in the windows/application data folder now.

    Should I go ahead and try to copy/paste all of the folders within that {numbers} folder to the proper folder on my new XP and see what happens?
     
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  14. 2009/06/22
    PeteC

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    Why not - might work out :)
     
  15. 2009/06/22
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Well, I may not be in full possession of my faculties, but I AM in full possession of my emails!!!! Their home was just in the wrong neighborhood!

    Back to loading up drivers. Thanks Rock and Pete. Thanks.

    Lar
     
  16. 2009/06/23
    PeteC

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    Great news, Lar :)
     
  17. 2009/06/23
    Rockster2U

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    Thanks Pete - I hope you stick around on this thread - Larry is no slouch.

    Nice Job Lar ........

    ;)
     
  18. 2009/06/23
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks guys.

    More minutia. Even though I pasted the newsgroup dbx files into the same folder along with email dbx files, the newsgroups do not show up on OE. I have created the proper NEWS account for Earthlink and restarted OE.

    Also, I am showing the yellow? in Device Mgr for Multimeda Video Controller. Not sure what that is but I am having trouble installing my Haupaugge TV board. XP will not find it as New Hardware. Any suggestions?
     
  19. 2009/06/23
    PeteC

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    Newsgroups I will need to research - not something I subscribe to.
    My approach would be to kill the Found New Hardware Wizard and install directly from the CD which presumably came with it. If you don't have that the drivers, etc should be on the Haupaugge web site. AFAIK XP will not find any hardware for which there is not a native driver available in the Driver Cache.
    May well be the TV card - I would sort that out first. If you right click on the Multimeda Video Controller in Device Manager > Properties what is the Device Status?
     
  20. 2009/06/23
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Device Status:

    The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28)

    To reinstall the drivers for this device, click Reinstall Driver


    But when I go to install from the CD, it says that the Hardware has not been installed... when it has.
     
  21. 2009/06/23
    PeteC

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    I see we have virtually identical mobo's - I have the A8N-SLI Premium - FWIW :)
    Yes and Windows recognises that something new is installed if the Found New Hardware Wizard pops up on boot - or did you invoke that manually through Control Panel?

    Can you put the card in another PCI slot? - there may be a conflict.
     

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