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Resolved Totally Zone Alarm or Symantec?

Discussion in 'Security and Privacy' started by ziggee, 2009/06/08.

  1. 2009/06/08
    ziggee

    ziggee Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I currently have ZA as firewall and Symantec (Norton) as antivirus. It's increasingly hard to get the two to work together. I'd like recommendations on going totally one way or the other based on other users experience, if possible, please.

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    Barb
     
  2. 2009/06/09
    Arie

    Arie Administrator Administrator Staff

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    OK, I will get started :)

    Neither will do for me. I use Windows firewall (I'm behind a hardware firewall - my routers) & use Avast for my A/V. Cost: $0... can't beat that!
     
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    ziggee

    ziggee Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I have a router from Comcast, do I have a hardware firewall and don't know it? If not, please explain what you mean. I don't understand this part of your comment.

    Thanks
    Barb
     
  5. 2009/06/09
    broni

    broni Moderator Malware Analyst

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    Yes, every router acts as hardware firewall, but it's a good idea to use software firewall as well.
    I'm totally with Arie here.

    Your choices, free:

    - Avast! free antivirus: http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html
    - Avira free antivirus: http://www.free-av.com/en/download/index.html

    - free PC Tools Antivirus: http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/
    - free PC Tools Firewall Plus: http://www.pctools.com/firewall/

    - free Comodo Internet Security (firewall + AV): http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/
    NOTE. During installation, Comodo will also allow you to install AV only, or firewall only, if you prefer to combine one Comodo product with some other product.

    If you decide to install Avast, or Avira, make sure, Windows firewall is turned on, or use PC Tools Firewall Plus.
    If you decide to install Comodo, make sure, Windows firewall is turned off.

    IMPORTANT! Make sure, you use only ONE antivirus, and ONE firewall.
     
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    daodeltaforce

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    Get rid of both, they are junk. If you are connected to a router, then your router's firewall will protect you better than even Windows firewall or a third-party security app like ZoneAlarm. If you travel and use your PC then be sure to turn on your windows firewall to protect your system. Finally, to fully protect your system from viruses and other malware I recommend you download and install Avast! Professional Edition version 4.8 and set your updates to download/install automatically which will keep your PC up-to-date and fully shielded from viruses, rootkits, etc.
     
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    broni

    broni Moderator Malware Analyst

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    1. Router firewall is not a substitute to software firewall. In the best interest, it's good to use both.
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    Not true. There is no perfect protection program.
     
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    daodeltaforce

    daodeltaforce Inactive

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    Router Firewall vs. OS Firewall

    Although you can run both firewalls, I don't agree that both a router firewall and OS firewall need to be running, in fact, your OS firewall may interfere with your router firewall. Of course there is no perfect firewall and there never will be.
     
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    broni

    broni Moderator Malware Analyst

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    Software firewall will never interfere with hardware firewall.
    There are very different animals, and they work in different ways.
     
  10. 2009/06/10
    daodeltaforce

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    Your are absolutely wrong. Software firewall may interfere with the router's internal firewall causing a sudden loss in the network connection. For example, see http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1099/kw/network connection/r_id/166.

    Here are some technical support tips from NETGEAR, one of the largest makers of network routers:
    If you do not have a router with a firewall, run a firewall product. (such as Windows firewall.)
    If you have a firewall router, turn off the Windows firewall. (Windows may have turned it on without your knowledge.)
    If you have a portable computer (and you are not logged in to your network router), it should be protected by a firewall at all times.
     
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    deck

    deck Inactive

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    Just jumping into the middle of this discussion... to ask questions., of course! :)

    I've been having issues and now they're getting worse (slowing down access, etc.)

    I have a dsl Modem which has a "Firewall Settings" button. I have no idea if it is enabled or not, as I no (known) access to it as I have no (known) password.

    (Short explanation: new phone company bought out old phone company lines and they've made changes to the modem...)

    I have a Belkin Router for my home network (wired and WI-FI). It has a Firewall and it IS enabled (don't remember doing it, but obviously I must have at some point...).

    Every XP computer I have has avast! and ZoneAlarm.

    My one Vista computer (which has always given me the most problems) has COMODO. It also says I have Windows Firewall ON :confused: but NOT using the recommended settings...... I believe I keep turning it OFF but it seems to keep turning back on.

    A laptop computer running Vista shows up at my house on a regular basis and I've installed COMODO on it, also.

    Until a few months ago, I had avast! and ZoneAlarm on ALL my computers but that combo and Vista AND Windows Firewall (and apparently my router and modem) were causing problems. I changed all of them to COMODO which until recently seemed to be OK on my Vista computer, however as other issues came up on my XP computers I've recently changed them back, which seemed to fix almost all the recent issues (I believe that Microsoft security updates have and are causing 1 or 2 new minor problems but I can live with them until they get fixed).

    DNS Address of the modem is 192.168.1.1
    DNS Address of the router is 192.168.2.1

    My ongoing issue (even before Vista) has been occassionally having my internet connection go down. The fix was to unplug the router, wait a few seconds, then power it back up. This would work 99.999% of the time.

    My Vista computer has been getting slower and slower at startup. Apparently I have Firewall issues... :rolleyes:

    SO ...

    Should I follow Arie (avast! and Windows Firewall) on my Vista computer?

    Wait... that was a really stupid question... sorry... :eek:

    What I meant was WHEN I go back to avast! on my Vista computer I should use Windows Firewall (with correct, updated settings) because my router has a firewall, right? And this hopefully will also get my Vista computer back out of the slow lane at start-up...?

    Should I also do this for the Vista laptop? It is used primarily at my home (but does not live here...) and at school, and possibly at other WI-FI hotspots.

    (I'll ask about any further recomendations for my XP laptop later.)
     
  13. 2009/06/10
    broni

    broni Moderator Malware Analyst

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    That's always possible. We learn all the time.
    Maybe I'm simply too young at 54, and surely I don't know everything, even after number of years of dealing with security issues, however....
    I can assure you, majority of people use routers, and 99% of those users, use software firewall, as well.
    So far, I don't recall any single complain from anyone about any conflict between hardware, and software firewall.
    If you can direct me to such posts on any forum, I'll be very glad glad to read them carefully.

    deck
    It would be in your best interest, if you start new topic about your issue.
     
  14. 2009/06/10
    richstan

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    Just a comment... (Maybe it's an really an opinion)

    My computer is partitioned, running XPSP3 and Vista SP2. I access the internet through a Linksys firewall/router and a Westell DSL modem. On XP I am using Avast antivirus and Comodo Internet Security, firewall only, Windows Firewall is disabled. Vista has Comodo Internet Security, firewall and antivirus, Windows Firewall is disabled. No conflicts, slowdowns, etc.

    Deck, you may want to set your router DNS to 192.168.1.1 as well. I previously had set my router and modem DNS as you have them and did get slow downs. Just a suggestion.
     
  15. 2009/06/10
    James

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    Broni

    My wife and I are behind a Linksys router with firewall and we also run a software firewall and have done so for years without a hitch. In fact, when we had our wireless network set up by the local computer technician, he insisted upon our installing the software firewall to go along the the hardware firewall. It works for us... that's all I know.
     
  16. 2009/06/18
    ziggee

    ziggee Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thank you all for all info, suggestions, and help.

    Barb
     

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