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Resolved Windows mail disallows SMTP port change.

Discussion in 'Microsoft Mail (Outlook / OE / Windows Mail)' started by saddletrampus, 2009/06/09.

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    saddletrampus

    saddletrampus Inactive Thread Starter

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    Vista HP SP1
    WM 6.06

    Windows mail will allow, but does NOT save any SMTP port changes.

    I need port 587 and not 25 to allow sending of mail.

    Problem is, everytime I exit WM or reset the PC, it reverts to port 25.

    I searched the registry for SMTP and the decimal VALUE was 25.

    I modified this to HEX 24b (decimal 587) within the correct email account record.

    Despite re-booting it still insists on defaulting to 25 :confused:

    Can this be fixed?

    Or is this just another Vista idiosyncrasy we have to live with?

    Come back XP/Outlook Express.

    Microsoft are a bit like some British politicians - insular, arrogant, uncaring, dishonest and totally unaware of what effect their inexplicable behaviour has on the majority of us, who just want a quiet life!
     
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    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    Have you seen this - #11 ?

    More here
     

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    saddletrampus

    saddletrampus Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi PeteC

    Unfortunately, the link and google search link you indicate, only seem to deal with CHANGING the port to avoid getting a server error message.

    If you re-read my thread, that is NOT the problem.

    The problem is:

    Windows mail will allow, but does NOT save any SMTP port changes

    Dave
     
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    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    I think server error message would relate to the inability to send mail ? - there are a host of hits for various ISP's to be found here

    Is the problem that you can change the SMPT port through the dialogue shown in #11 in the URL I first posted, but it is not saved after you hit Apply and reboot?

    Difficult for me to use anything but Google for info as I run neither Vista nor Windows Mail.
     
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    saddletrampus Inactive Thread Starter

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    Correct! :D

    As I said;

    "The problem is:

    Windows mail will allow, but does NOT save any SMTP port changes "

    (At least for more than the current session - In other words, (at the risk of further repeating myself);

    "If I exit WM or re-boot the PC, the SMTP port setting of 587, (which has worked fine up to that point), has defaulted back to 25 when re-loading WM ".

    This of course doesn't work, so I have to change the value again, which of course disappears if the session is ended, and so on and so forth, ad infinitum.

    Oh and PS - I never mentioned "Server error message???" in my first post.
     
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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    I can change the smtp port in my win mail and the change sticks just fine. I suspect that you may be using an Internet security program that scans your email. If using antivirus for email then check the settings in that program.Usually, email scanning programs seamlessly use local proxy to scan & send mail. Perhaps the av program or security program disallows the changes to stick. (I don't use antivirus on my Vista because I only use Vista for testing purposes and for t-shooting others' computers)
     
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    saddletrampus Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi TonyT - sounds feasible, I will check and let you know. For the record I use Trend TIP, and prior to changing ISPs, (now using Three.co.uk mobile broadband), obviously didn't have this problem.

    What makes it worse is the fact that I have several accounts set up with differing return addresses, so changing them all everytime is a ball ache.

    Meanwhile, I have downloaded the Thunderbird offering from Mozilla to try.

    I don't particularly like Vista (still, after 18 months of persevering), or Window Mail anyway.

    So I will install the Mozilla stuff and check it out (just hope it's not like Chrome!)

    Cheers
     
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    saddletrampus Inactive Thread Starter

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    Worth trying, . . . . but No cigar!

    Changed the allocated SMTP ports in firewall for W/Mail, but guess what?

    Still loses info, which thinking about it was obvious.

    The AV stuff would prevent the 'alien' ports being used possibly, but change the saved settings of the prog? - unlikely.

    Nice try though - next?
     
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    saddletrampus

    saddletrampus Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi

    I still have this unresolved problem with Windows Mail on Vista HP SP2.

    1) Brief recap:

    I needed to change the smtp port number to work with my mobile phone connection.

    (For some reason they were blocking 25)

    WM worked fine until I exited, when it 'lost' the port change and reverted to 25.

    I even tried looking in the registry - no joy.

    I have just been re-entering the port number change each time I have loaded the prog.

    The plot has thickened!

    I have just discovered that it is not only port number changes that are not saved, also changes to Server detail is lost if the prog is closed and restarted.

    This has just come to light, because my dope of an Email provider company(Easypost), have decided to drop their OK system for the biggest heap of c**p since nellie the elephant passed by, and left her calling card in the road!

    When I put in the new pop3 and smtp URL's and tried it, it sent and received mails fine - no problems.

    After the Pc was closed down and re-started, it didn't work. On investigation I discovered that, like the port numbers, the server detail had reverted to the old settings.

    Is it possible that WM has become corrupted?

    The system is Vista Home Premium SP2 fully patched

    Do I need to bite the bullet and try WLM or can this be fixed?

    Dave
     
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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    Write down all tyhe pertinent infor you need for mail, ie username, passwd, pop server. smtp server, ports. Then delete the account. Your mail will still be there. Then create a brand new account using the settings you want.
     
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    saddletrampus

    saddletrampus Inactive Thread Starter

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    Resolved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    TonyT
    You are a star!
    Just got to delete / replace the other 8 accounts now!

    Cheers and thanks for that :)

    RESOLVED
     

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