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cable modem and thunder-lightning

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by abm, 2009/02/26.

  1. 2009/02/26
    abm

    abm Inactive Thread Starter

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    I have cable modem installed on my computer. When there is thunder-lightning outside I do not turn my computer on. Is this sufficient to protect my computer? If not, exactly what should I do when there is thunder-lightning outside? And what if I am not home when there is thunder-lightning? Thank you. abm
     
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  2. 2009/02/27
    Steve R Jones

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    To be really safe - all electrical equiptment should be unplugged from the wall outlet.

    Getting a surge protector would give you a little help. Getting a UPS would help more.

    Having a good backup plan of your important data goes without saying;)
     

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    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    I go further and say that ALL computers should be on a good UPS with AVR - automatic voltage regulation. This is not so much for coverage during a complete outage, but to compensate for ALL anomalies and not just surges and spikes. IMO, a surge and spike protector is nothing more than a fancy and expensive extension cord because surge and spike protectors are incapable of compensating for sags (opposite of surges), dropouts (opposite of spikes) or extended surges. UPS do. Without an UPS, the "duty" to compensate for these anomalies falls on the power supply and motherboard regulator circuits, already major heat producers. And since heat is the bane of all electronics, added heat adds stress, and increases component aging.

    Note that ALL high wattage devices introduce anomalies down the power line each time they cycle on and off. These include microwave ovens, toasters, coffee pots, hair dryers, water coolers, refrigerators, and more. If you have one of these devices in your home or office, or you live in an apartment building, you need to be on an UPS with AVR.

    I note my 1000VA UPS protects my computer, all my network equipment, my PDA, and TWO 22" LCD monitors. I also have an UPS on the big screen TV and another on the home theater audio equipment - and recommend all do the same.
     
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    Please tell me what the letters UPS stands for and what is it and where do I buy it? Thank you. abm
     
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    If you look at the posts the acronym UPS should be underlined, move your mouse over it and you'll see Un-interuptable Power Supply. Most computer stores will supply you with one either instore or online.
     
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    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    I'm sorry. Yes, uninterruptible power supply, or commonly referred to as a battery backup. But as I noted, backup power in the event of a power outage is just the icing on the cake. Feeding your computer good, clean, stable power is what it is all about.
     
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    Arie

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    Oh, and let me just be the first to say that IMHO there is only one trusted UPS manufacturer: APC

    I wouldn't let anything else come between my computer's PSU & Wall outlet :)
     
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  9. 2009/03/01
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    To reiterate what Bill stated:

    Get a UPS with AVR (Automatic Voltage Regulating).

    The reson AVR is important is because computer power supplies plug into a wall outlet that uses AC (Alternating Current). Alternating current coming to the home from the electric company is never a constant voltage. The current varies as much as 20 volts sometimes. The "pulse" of electricity coming through the wire changes, one second it's 110 volts, next second it's 107 volts, next second it's 117 volts, etc. etc.

    The consistancy of the voltage in the wire is affected by several factors; the quality of the electric service, generators and transformers at nearby power stations, wiring on or in the streets, home wiring and hardware. And the nature of AC current itself.

    A computer power supply takes the AC curent and converts it to DC current. (Direct Current) Direct current flows only in one direction, while AC current flows back & forth in both directions. (a flashlight battery is DC) DC is necessary for computers in that it can be morte easily controlled for use by sensitive hardware that requires lower or higher voltages.

    A fluctuating AC reduces the life of a power supply too. A power supply plugged into an UPS w/ AVR runs more efficiently and has a longer lifespan.

    Thus, get a UPS that has AVR.

    It was mentioned that a surge protector is nothing more than a glorified extension cord & outlet expander.

    I add that an UPS w/out AVR is a "glorfied surge protector" that gives you time to safely shut down equipment. AVR increases surge protection and adds efficiency to the system.
     
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    Rockster2U

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    Let's add another comment, especially since the title of this thread is cable modem and thunder-lightning. Although its been a while since I last saw it happen, a lightning strike to the cable coming into the house can also fry a machine. This all should be grounded but lightning is an amazing phenomena.

    Last instance I witnessed jumped from a tree that was hit to underground cable and subsequently toasted the user's ethernet card and took the motherboard and CPU with it. Cable company replaced cable and cable modem and user replaced computer. Despite this being an Act of God, Insurance Company paid for user's new computer after the deductable.

    ;)
     
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    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Well, not exactly. DC is used in digital electronics because, for example, on (+5V or high) = 1 and off (0V or low) = 0. That's 2 possible values, and only 2 (binary) "states" - the fundamental foundation for "digital" electronics. You don't have "instant" full potential (voltage) on and off states with a sine wave (alternating current). Instead, there's an infinite number of voltage values on a sine wave during each cycle. AC, by definition, already has a frequency - not something you want in digital electronics controlled by a clock. In fact, removing AC "ripple" a major concern.

    I agree an UPS without AVR is not near as good as one with AVR, and why I stated with AVR above. This is especially true for fast digital equipment. But an UPS without regulation is not really even a glorified surge protector - it is just a battery backup in the event of a full outage. The ability for an UPS to compensate for abnormal line conditions (high and/or low) comes from intelligent regulator circuits in the UPS. In the most basic UPS, when an abnormal condition (high or low) is sensed, line voltage is simply removed, and the batteries kick in until normal power is restored (or batteries run out).

    In an UPS with AVR, the batteries are used to soak of excess voltage (which they do with ease), and to dispense a "boost" when low line voltage conditions exist. The better UPS do this very fast, and can switch from line to battery in just a few milliseconds. Some of the best (and very expensive) UPS supply fully regulated battery power 100% of the time.

    Yes it is and it is important to note that NOTHING can protect your computer from a direct hit. And so as noted by Steve above,
     

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