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[Computer BSOD's and restarts when opening programs]

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by wbrumfiel, 2009/01/10.

  1. 2009/01/14
    wbrumfiel

    wbrumfiel Inactive Thread Starter

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    First off, I'm sorry to hear about your loss :(

    The only time I've run into the BSOD is while running a security related program or trying to download one. Then again that is all that I've been trying to do lately outside of trying to run these debug tools. I have another memory dump file from when it died while running AVG that I can send but it will probably not show much outside of me running AVG when it happened. Let me know if you want it. I won't be back at work for another couple of hours though so it'll be delayed. As far as I know none of this started happening until I installed the new memory to make it go from 512MB to 2 gigs, but now its even messing up with the old 512 in there. I checked the memory and its the same type of memory, just 2 bigger sticks. Could I have somehow ruined one or both of the memory ports or something?
     
  2. 2009/01/14
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    Thank you - she had a good innings - 92 years, but that hardly softens the loss.

    Feel free to send the other dump file - it may help.

    Please run a few non-security related apps and let me know if BSOD's still occur. If they do I suggest you post the relevant logs in the Malware & Virus Removal forum with a link back to this thread.

    The fact that the problem arose at or around the time you changed the memory may or may not be coincidental. Memory problems can arise due to faults in the modules or in the slots into which they fit. I think it unlikely that simply changing the modules would induce such problems given that undue force was not used.

    If non-security based apps run without a BSOD then post as I suggested above. If the BSOD's still occur try running a single stick of memory along the lines of my general note on memory testing ....
     

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  4. 2009/01/14
    wbrumfiel

    wbrumfiel Inactive Thread Starter

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    OK, so I've run some other programs on it and no BSOD so far. I'm kind of limited on what I can run really since I have it at work on the work network. I've been streaming radio on it and watching videos from the web with no BSOD. I also took the time to uninstall some things from the machine that weren't being used (old poker software and AOL software, etc) with no problem. I then thought I'd switch to the new memory again to test it out. Only this time I started with one stick of the 1GB ram. Sure enough it BSOD on startup so I'm thinking that stick is bad. Still doesn't really explain why it BSOD with the old memory when doing security stuff but I think its pretty clear that stick doesn't work. I've got it up and running now with the other 1GB stick in the same memory slot that I tried the defective one and its booted up and back to streaming with no problems so far. Not sure what else I should run to test it. I don't have any game discs with me or movies or anything like that.
     
  5. 2009/01/14
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    I'm not going to post the entire debug logs for the 4 dumps you sent - just those portions which seem relevant - I have highlighted the 'clues' in red .....

    MEMORY dump ....

    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

    BugCheck 8E, {c0000005, 80586a80, b05eeb5c, 0}

    Probably caused by : ntoskrnl.exe ( nt!CcPfPrefetchSections+206 )

    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------

    kd> !analyze -v;r;kv;lmtn;.logclose;q
    *******************************************************************************
    * *
    * Bugcheck Analysis *
    * *
    *******************************************************************************

    KERNEL_MODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED (8e)
    This is a very common bugcheck. Usually the exception address pinpoints
    the driver/function that caused the problem. Always note this address
    as well as the link date of the driver/image that contains this address.
    Some common problems are exception code 0x80000003. This means a hard
    coded breakpoint or assertion was hit, but this system was booted
    /NODEBUG. This is not supposed to happen as developers should never have
    hardcoded breakpoints in retail code, but ...
    If this happens, make sure a debugger gets connected, and the
    system is booted /DEBUG. This will let us see why this breakpoint is
    happening.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: c0000005, The exception code that was not handled
    Arg2: 80586a80, The address that the exception occurred at
    Arg3: b05eeb5c, Trap Frame
    Arg4: 00000000

    Debugging Details:
    ------------------
    EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx" referenced memory at "0x%08lx ". The memory could not be "%s "

    Minidump 1

    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

    BugCheck 50, {e27d6000, 0, 8056a9fa, 1}


    Could not read faulting driver name
    Probably caused by : ntoskrnl.exe ( nt!CmpQueryKeyValueData+2d4 )

    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------

    kd> !analyze -v;r;kv;lmtn;.logclose;q
    *******************************************************************************
    * *
    * Bugcheck Analysis *
    * *
    *******************************************************************************

    PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (50)
    Invalid system memory was referenced. This cannot be protected by try-except,
    it must be protected by a Probe. Typically the address is just plain bad or it
    is pointing at freed memory.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: e27d6000, memory referenced.
    Arg2: 00000000, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation.
    Arg3: 8056a9fa, If non-zero, the instruction address which referenced the bad memory address.
    Arg4: 00000001, (reserved)

    Debugging Details:
    ------------------


    Could not read faulting driver name

    READ_ADDRESS: e27d6000

    FAULTING_IP:
    nt!CmpQueryKeyValueData+2d4
    8056a9fa f3a5 rep movs dword ptr es:[edi],dword ptr [esi]

    MM_INTERNAL_CODE: 1

    CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT

    minidump 2

    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

    BugCheck 50, {c1504364, 0, 804e70dd, 0}


    Could not read faulting driver name
    Probably caused by : memory_corruption ( nt!MiLocateAndReserveWsle+52 )

    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------

    kd> !analyze -v;r;kv;lmtn;.logclose;q
    *******************************************************************************
    * *
    * Bugcheck Analysis *
    * *
    *******************************************************************************

    PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (50)
    Invalid system memory was referenced. This cannot be protected by try-except,
    it must be protected by a Probe. Typically the address is just plain bad or it
    is pointing at freed memory.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: c1504364, memory referenced.
    Arg2: 00000000, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation.
    Arg3: 804e70dd, If non-zero, the instruction address which referenced the bad memory
    address
    .
    Arg4: 00000000, (reserved)

    Debugging Details:
    ------------------
    Could not read faulting driver name

    READ_ADDRESS: c1504364


    minidump 3


    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

    BugCheck 1000008E, {c0000005, 80586a80, b05eeb5c, 0}

    Probably caused by : ntoskrnl.exe ( nt!CcPfPrefetchSections+206 )

    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------

    kd> !analyze -v;r;kv;lmtn;.logclose;q
    *******************************************************************************
    * *
    * Bugcheck Analysis *
    * *
    *******************************************************************************

    KERNEL_MODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED_M (1000008e)
    This is a very common bugcheck. Usually the exception address pinpoints
    the driver/function that caused the problem. Always note this address
    as well as the link date of the driver/image that contains this address.
    Some common problems are exception code 0x80000003. This means a hard
    coded breakpoint or assertion was hit, but this system was booted
    /NODEBUG. This is not supposed to happen as developers should never have
    hardcoded breakpoints in retail code, but ...
    If this happens, make sure a debugger gets connected, and the
    system is booted /DEBUG. This will let us see why this breakpoint is
    happening.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: c0000005, The exception code that was not handled
    Arg2: 80586a80, The address that the exception occurred at
    Arg3: b05eeb5c, Trap Frame
    Arg4: 00000000

    Debugging Details:
    ------------------


    EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx" referenced memory at "0x%08lx ". The memory could not be "%s ".
    FAULTING_IP:
    nt!CcPfPrefetchSections+206
    80586a80 8b30 mov esi,dword ptr [eax]

    TRAP_FRAME: b05eeb5c -- (.trap ffffffffb05eeb5c)
    .trap ffffffffb05eeb5c
    Unable to read trap frame at b05eeb5c
    .trap

    CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 3

    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT

    BUGCHECK_STR: 0x8E

    With my very limited experience of analysing these logs (some are far more clearcut :)) I am still of the opinion that it is a memory problem as outlined in my last post and I suggest you follow the action recommended there.

    I would still like to know the outcome of running non-security based apps.

    With the time difference I am logging off shortly (11 pm here) and must repeat ....
     
  6. 2009/01/14
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    I see you posted while I was posting ......

    Some progress -can you try something like Office? What is the result of running say Ad-Aware now? If it BSOD's again we need to check out for malware and I suggest you post in the Malware & Virus removal forum as I posted earlier. Regrettably you will not get an instant response there as the guys are kept extremely busy.
     
  7. 2009/01/14
    wbrumfiel

    wbrumfiel Inactive Thread Starter

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    Everything I run that doesn't deal with security seems to run fine. I ran AVG again before I left work and it BSOD. I came home and ran a DVD, downloaded some music and played a game of Sims (sorry I don't game on the computer much :) ) and had no problems. I'll run the malware stuff and post there.
     
  8. 2009/01/15
    Arie

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    Please post your Malware logs in the Malware and Virus Removal forum.

    Provide a brief intro & link to this thread.
     
  9. 2009/01/15
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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