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File copy problems in installing XP on old IBM Server

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by tennexican, 2008/08/14.

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    tennexican

    tennexican Inactive Thread Starter

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    At the present time I'm trying to imitate an IT tech (which I'm not) in order to help a friend get her computer working. There's about six miles between our houses, which means I'm making a lot of trips back and forth to try different solutions. Here's what I'm dealing with...and please bear with me, this is going to take some time and space. Would appreciate email response if possible.

    She recently bought a used IBM E-Server X-Series 200, Model 847961X. BIOS date is 11/12/2001. CPU is a Pentium 1.3Ghz with 256Mb of RAM. It also has a floppy drive and CD-ROM reader. Came loaded with Windows XP Pro. No Service Pack.

    Once set up, somewhere along the way it wound up with Vista Anti-Virus 2008 on it (I know, it's a fake Anti-Virus) that created so many popups that eventually the All Programs button and the Programs Menu disappeared. That's where I came in. I downloaded a set of XP Pro Boot Discs from Microsoft, fed them into the floppy drive and installed XP-Pro over the existing program. This eliminated the popups long enough to uninstall Vista (I'm also aware that it didn't completely uninstall it) and download an evaluation copy of Norton Anti-Virus. Also Spybot Search And Destroy. S&E found several problems and cured them. For the next fifteen days (the length of the Norton evaluation period), everything worked fine with no problems. As soon as the evaluation period ended, Vista returned with the same problem as before.

    This time I used the set of boot discs and the XP Pro CD in order to format the drive and do a clean install of XP Pro. Things worked as advertised until I got to a point with only 7 minutes left. Setup froze at that point. Wound up reinstalling XP Pro two more times, starting with the boot discs and going thru the entire sequence. Still froze at the 7 minute mark. Research on the internet turned up information that at the seven minute mark, all you had to do was eject the CD and setup would finish on it's own. Weird solution, but several posters said that it worked for them.

    Went back tonight to see if that would solve the problem and ran into another one. The boot discs worked fine and setup from the CD started as it should. Formatted the drive (again) and then the fun began. Immediately after the installation progress screen appeared, a popup warning told me that setup could not read file 'whatever'. Pressed escape to skip that one and the same warning appeared. Ditto for every other file. Pulled the CD and wiped it clean, which it was anyway. Put it back in the drive...same problem. Have been unable to make any progress. This is definitely strange because it worked three different times yesterday...until the seven minute mark...and nothing has changed since then. In fact, the computer hadn't been touched until I went back over there.

    Was thinking about putting in a new hard drive if it still froze at seven minutes, but with the warnings about not being able to copy files, that approach doesn't seem valid.

    My friend is a widow, handicapped with major medical problems. That translates to no disposable income to spend on buying part after part for this computer. That's why I'm involved and am hoping that there's a way to get this mess fixed without spending anything more than a lot of my time.

    She knows nothing about computers except for the fact that they're supposed to work. As a result, she keeps saying it's just a bad computer and I keep saying that it isn't the computer, it's the Windows XP Pro software. I hope some of y'all can help me wade thru this quicksand bog. It would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you.
    Richard.
     
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    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    Richard - Welcome to the Board :)

    Start at the beginning - as far as you have ascertained there is not a problem with the installation CD, but what about the CD-ROM drive? On a computer that old it would be reasonable to expect a fair amount of dust in the guts of the beast - give the drive a good blow out with compressed air - it may be that the drive has not been used for some time and the current usage has disturbed the dust which may be affecting the laser.

    In any case I would check the cable connections to the drive, ribbon cable at both ends by carefully removing them and replacing. This may eliminate any possible corrosion on the contacts. Do the same for the hard drive connections and carefully remove the RAM module, clean the contacts with a soft pencil eraser - down the contacts, not across and degrease with alcohol or similar and refit.

    Consider trying another CD-ROM drive if you have one lying around or possibly hitching up the one from your computer on a temporary basis.

    When looking inside the case attempt to identify the hard drive and run the manufacturer's disk diagnostics on it - as you are using floppies to setup the XP install I guess the computer will not boot from the CD-ROM drive and you will need a floppy based version of the diagnostics if available.

    Keep us posted with progress.
    All responses to threads must be on the BBS for the benefit of all and to enable as many people as possible to chip in with ideas/solutions.
     

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    mattman

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    You have reformatted, but you should also delete the partition(s) on the HDD. I expect there has been different versions of Windows on the machine and maybe not even a Windows system when it worked as a server. Different versions of Windows have different ways of partitioning, not to mention a different type of operating system altogether.

    If you still have problems after trying Pete's suggestions and deleting the partitions, test the HDD with the manufacturer's testing utilities. Pete has a list of URLs if you can't find them.

    Matt
     
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    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    Sure have and I intended to include them in my last post :(. Here they are ....

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