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Need to fix DNS name resultion issue

Discussion in 'Windows Server System' started by theshadow1000, 2008/04/22.

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    theshadow1000

    theshadow1000 Inactive Thread Starter

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    I just discovered that I have a DNS name resolution issue on my
    network. When using remote desktop, I cannot connect via the remote
    client’s computer name, I can only connect via IP address. Which lead
    me to believe that it’s a DNS name resolution issue, the problem is
    that I have no clue on how to fix it.

    I am running Windows Sever 2003 SP3 with active directory and DNS.
     
  2. 2008/04/22
    ReggieB

    ReggieB Inactive Alumni

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    When you say "client’s computer name ", do you mean its NetBIOS name (e.g. computer1) or its DNS name (e.g. computer1.company.local).

    Altering DNS may well not help if you are trying to connect via a NetBIOS name.

    In my experience, DNS names work well remotely, but NetBIOS names can be problematic.
     

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    mflynn

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    10-4 to what Reggie said.

    If you want you can get us the following info.

    An ipconfig /all "from the sevrer itself "

    From a local workstation on the LAN:
    Pathping server name
    Pathping server ip

    Then from outside in, from one of your remotes:
    Pathping server wan ip

    Mike
     
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    theshadow1000

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    ReggieB

    ReggieB Inactive Alumni

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    A couple of points I would make from the IPCONFIG outputs:

    DNS should point at the 2003 server and only the 2003 server. It appears that you currently have a secondary DNS server (your ISP's DNS server?) set. Use DNS forwarders to get your server's DNS talking to internet DNS servers.

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814591

    The domain name being used is an internet DNS. This may be causing problems unless your server is also the internet authority for your domain - which is unusual. Removing the second DNS entry may resolve problem caused by this as it will force your internal system to rely on the 2003 server as the authority as for domain name space. Personally, I would avoid this problem by using a .local domain within a LAN. Keep your internet name space for the internet. You're better off with a unique internal name space for your local network.

    Remove the secondary DNS server entries and see if that helps. If that does fix the problem, do an NSLOOKUP to the server and see what you get:

    Code:
    nslookup covenant-rbywmu.ad.covschool.com
    You client appears to be a VMware virtual machine. I don't think this will cause the problem, but it might be useful if you could confirm this.
     
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    ReggieB

    ReggieB Inactive Alumni

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    I think there is also an issue with the length of host names with NetBIOS. I think the computer name "covenant-rbywmu" is long and contains a special (non-alphabetical) character. This may be causing the problem with NetBIOS.
     
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    mflynn

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    :)

    Reg I like it when you talk like that!

    I agree 100%!!

    Shadow a little more insight to this issue for us would be.

    From a LAN station
    cmd prompt

    pathping servername
    pathping serverip

    From outside (your remote)

    pathping wan ip of server

    Mike

    PS you do not need screen captures, use: ipconfig /all >ipcfg.out or pathping server >patpsvr.txt then open these files and paste the results back to us.
     
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  9. 2008/04/23
    theshadow1000

    theshadow1000 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi everyone, thanks to all of you for all of your help!

    nslookup from the server:

    Server: UnKnown
    Address: 192.168.1.174

    Name: covenant-rbtwmu.ad.covschool.com.covschool.com
    Address: 209.62.21.228​

    nslookup from a vmware virtual machine

    Server: dns1.sndgca.sbcglobal.net
    Address: 206.13.30.12

    Name: covenant-rbtwmu.ad.covschool.com.ad.covschool.com
    Address: 209.62.21.228​


    traceroute from a vmware virtual machine


    Tracing route to 192.168.1.174 over a maximum of 30 hops

    0 vmware-xp.ad.covschool.com [192.168.1.218]

    1 192.168.1.1

    2 192.168.1.174

    Computing statistics for 50 seconds...

    Source to Here This Node/Link

    Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address

    0 vmware-xp.ad.covschool.com [192.168.1.218]

    1/ 100 = 1% |

    1 4ms 16/ 100 = 16% 15/ 100 = 15% 192.168.1.1

    0/ 100 = 0% |

    2 3ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.1.174


    Trace complete.​

    traceroute from the server

    Tracing route to covenant-rbtwmu.ad.covschool.com [209.62.21.228]

    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    0 vmware-xp.ad.covschool.com [192.168.1.218]

    1 192.168.1.1

    2 adsl-66-125-193-81.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [66.125.193.81]

    3 dist3-vlan50.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [67.114.50.1]

    4 bb1-g4-0.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [151.164.43.141]

    5 ex2-p14-0.eqlaca.sbcglobal.net [151.164.191.75]

    6 bpr2-ge-2-1-0.LosAngelesEquinix.savvis.net [151.164.248.214]

    7 cr2-pos-0-0-3-0.lay.savvis.net [204.70.203.50]

    8 cr2-tengige0-7-5-0.dallas.savvis.net [204.70.196.29]

    9 208.172.139.134

    10 gphou2-209-85-0-113.ev1servers.net [209.85.0.113]

    11 ev1s-209-62-21-228.ev1servers.net [209.62.21.228]



    Computing statistics for 275 seconds...

    Source to Here This Node/Link

    Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address

    0 vmware-xp.ad.covschool.com [192.168.1.218]

    7/ 100 = 7% |

    1 5ms 7/ 100 = 7% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.1.1

    1/ 100 = 1% |

    2 32ms 8/ 100 = 8% 0/ 100 = 0% adsl-66-125-193-81.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [66.125.193.81]

    0/ 100 = 0% |

    3 --- 100/ 100 =100% 92/ 100 = 92% dist3-vlan50.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [67.114.50.1]

    0/ 100 = 0% |

    4 --- 100/ 100 =100% 92/ 100 = 92% bb1-g4-0.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [151.164.43.141]

    0/ 100 = 0% |

    5 --- 100/ 100 =100% 92/ 100 = 92% ex2-p14-0.eqlaca.sbcglobal.net [151.164.191.75]

    0/ 100 = 0% |

    6 36ms 8/ 100 = 8% 0/ 100 = 0% bpr2-ge-2-1-0.LosAngelesEquinix.savvis.net [151.164.248.214]

    1/ 100 = 1% |

    7 124ms 11/ 100 = 11% 2/ 100 = 2% cr2-pos-0-0-3-0.lay.savvis.net [204.70.203.50]

    0/ 100 = 0% |

    8 150ms 10/ 100 = 10% 1/ 100 = 1% cr2-tengige0-7-5-0.dallas.savvis.net [204.70.196.29]

    0/ 100 = 0% |

    9 --- 100/ 100 =100% 91/ 100 = 91% 208.172.139.134

    0/ 100 = 0% |

    10 79ms 12/ 100 = 12% 3/ 100 = 3% gphou2-209-85-0-113.ev1servers.net [209.85.0.113]

    0/ 100 = 0% |

    11 78ms 9/ 100 = 9% 0/ 100 = 0% ev1s-209-62-21-228.ev1servers.net [209.62.21.228]



    Trace complete.​
     
  10. 2008/04/23
    ReggieB

    ReggieB Inactive Alumni

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    Well, there are your problems:
    • DNS lookup for internal systems from the client are going outside your network. All your nslookup reponses should be coming from 192.168.1.174.
    • The IP addresses that are returned from those lookups are returning external IP addresses rather than the actual internal addresses
    • The returned DNS names are confused with repetitions of the domain name.
    Your DNS set up is the problem. You need to get your server set up correctly.

    I recommend that your separate you internal DNS address space from your external DNS address space. How best to do that depends on your network set up. Is this a new setup? How many client system do you have? Do you need to provide external access to internal clients?
     

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