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Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by CrunchDude, 2008/02/04.

  1. 2008/02/04
    CrunchDude

    CrunchDude Inactive Thread Starter

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    Alright...This guy came over today and delivered two little tubes of this thermal paste/grease. One says heatsink compounds (sounds like the company name) and it only says "Silver Grease" on it, and I checked and the stuff that comes out is shiny silver.

    The other little tube says "artic cooling compound silicone heatsink compound "...Then it lists the ingredients: 50% silicone, 20% carbon, 30% metal oxide included. Also checked here, and pressing the tube, a white paste (vs. the above stated silver one) pushes out.

    So final question: Should I just use a little of both? They're both .5g tubes where you can push the substance right onto where it's supposed to go.

    I am so ready to do this. I have had the T7600 is my possession for three weeks. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! everyone!!! ;)

    EDIT: Does it matter as to which way the CPU goes in??? It's square with no indication as to which way it might go in???
     
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    mattman

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    C-D, don't mix thermal compounds. That is a main reason to clean the old compound off as well as you can.

    Can the "guy" tell you what (brand) they are? There are no instructions?

    Arctic brand's main product is Arcticsilver 5, that is a silver-based compound, not a silicone, so I will leave identifying it up to you www.arcticsilver.com.

    I expect that the new CPU is high performance, I would not use unidentified thermal compound on it.

    Re-read the previous thread and the instructions I linked to.

    Mixing two different compounds and using excessive amounts is the opposite of what you should do.

    Matt
     

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    CrunchDude

    CrunchDude Inactive Thread Starter

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    Alright, it's done. lol...I am running it right now for the last 6 hours. It was interesting and didn't take long at all.

    HOWEVER...I DID mix the two pastes. I didn't see the post in time. so should I go back in, clean up, and use only the silver paste?

    Cleaning the old stuff out from the now former T2600 was very straightforward. I also may have used too much. The stuff I took off wasn't as much as I put on, and now that I mixed it...oh man...so leave it alone? Go back in and re-do it?

    I've been monitoring the temperature, and it didn't budge from 43C's for the longest time. The fan is on and working very well. The highest I've seen it was 53C's. Touching the underneath of it, I remember my T2600 being wayyy hotter than this.

    I don't know if this matters, though, as far as the fact that I used BOTH pastes...??? Arghh....:rolleyes:
     
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    Christer

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    Hi 'Dude!

    It seems like you found out that there is a little marker on the CPU and a little marker on the Socket. Also, the pins on the CPU are "keyed" to go in only in the correct orientation.

    I would remove the heatsink and the "mixed compound ". The reason is that you don't know how they interact. Maybe the "mixed compound" will harden and after some time, making the removal of the heatsink from the CPU difficult or even impossible. Clean the heatsink and the CPU and use only one compound.

    Christer
     
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    Redo it and this time, do yourself a favor and get some Artic Silver 5. This is a very specific branded product that is readily available and quite easy to identify. Pretty straight forward stuff we're talking about. As to application - thinner is better and instructions are available at Artic Silver's website.

    For all you've just stated, its very possible that you might have just put an adhesive on there. Not what I would term a well thought out decision.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    CrunchDude

    CrunchDude Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks to all who responded. I re-did it pretty much right after I posted the question... lol...I read several websites as far as the amount I should put on, and I realized quickly that I had put WAY too much on it. So I went in, wiped, yes, wiped up that mixture mess in there haha, until every last edge was totally clean, and applied only the correct amount of the SILVER paste only.

    I turn the **** thing on, FAN error...haha...In my (unnecessary) haste, I had forgotten to put the fan cable back on, so in 30 mins., I disassembled and reassembled this thing twice. It was interesting, though. I wonder if I should mess with anything else, such as the only two things that are left that this baby will take, both of which are not that important: The Thinkpad a/b/g/n card and maybe an AT&T WWAN swap from the Verizon one that's in there. I saw the Verizon WWAN card "on my way" back and forth to the CPU LOL...oh man...

    All in all, pretty fun to have done this, especially in a laptop...

    Thanks to everyone!!!! T7600 running smoothly at 70-72C. Does that sound about right?

    Thanks again!! :)
     
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    Hill

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    That has to be a typo.
    70 -72 C seems way to high

    That got to be around 150 F if not more.
    My CPU right now is 42 C
    And its set to sound an alarm at 65 C

    Is that reading from the bios or a 3rd party app?
    Check the bios, maybe a more accurate reading?
    I guess this is a laptop? Do they run hotter? Wait for some one who knows laptops better than I.

    Hope I didn't freak you out!
    Hill
     
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    Christer

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    Why do you ask questions if you have no intention of waiting for a response? It seems to me like you're wasting our time ... :( ... !

    Christer
     
  10. 2008/02/06
    CrunchDude

    CrunchDude Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hill, no, I freak myself out enough lol...To answer your questions, yes, I use PC Wizard 2008 to check the temp., although I don't know how accurate it is. It consistently runs between 50 and 70C, and yes, that's 120-160F. It is a laptop, and yes, they do run hotter. Doing a few Google searches, I find that temps. in the 70's to 80's Celcius is supposedly fine, and that the Intel CPU's are very good at stepping down the speed of the CPU in order to run cooler, if the vents are blocked for example. In a real emergency, they turn off altogether. I remember my Pentium M in a previous laptop being so unbelievably hot that it would shut down a lot, which was annoying. In those instances, when I would touch the bottom, it would be so hot that it burned my hand. Didn't seem to bother the processor, as it always shut itself off, but it can't be good for its lifespan. The GPU runs even hotter in my laptop when it is strained.

    I don't remember how to check the temp in the BIOS. Would I not have to turn it off to access it?

    Thanks! :)

    Because patience is a virtue I unfortunately do not have at times. So as not to waste your time, I do come right back, however, and let everyone know that I have already done something, if I asked for help, so as to minimize the inconvenience on everyone. ;)
     
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    Rockster2U

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    70-72 would sure be unacceptable to me. You cite the fact that Core 2 processors "throttle down" and that gives rise to another question. Does it make a lot of sense to upgrade to a CPU that in turn runs slower than its rated speed because of heat. I believe that the circuitry in that processor will step down the core voltage as required so one really can't take advantage of the processor's maximum rated performance. Its kind of like throwing a 12 cylinder engine in a car knowing its only going to run on 6 cylinders.

    I'd still tell you - use Artic Silver 5. You currently have a cheap substitute.

    ;)
     
  12. 2008/02/08
    CrunchDude

    CrunchDude Inactive Thread Starter

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    Yea, what you say makes perfect sense. I've been checking it, and I realized it went over 70C when I accidentally blocked the vents. The last 48 hours it has been hovering around 50-65C. Is that still too hot? I'll get the Arctic Silver when I get back to the U.S. I'm just glad it's in there, at long last. lol...Thanks for the info! :)
     

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