Windows Vista What else was going to be in Vista??

http://www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsVista/

Which components were going to be part of the Vista operating system, but didn't come to fruition due to the (usual) delays? Vista made the Top 10 Worst Software list, albeit at #10, by CNET. That also gets them mentioned first.

I was surprised, but I do agree that Vista is more of a "want" than a "need ". I love Vista, but I could just as easily do what I use my computer for with XP.

UAC is mentioned a lot, and I see how it is a double-edged sword. Many people hate it, but it serves a highly useful purpose and is a great security feature. I don't mind the extra clicking whatsoever, but for those who have such tremendous dismay for it rolleyes, you CAN turn it off.

So what was left out? What was scaled back? Hmmm...

 

Search "Windows Longhorn" and you'll see.

 

home premium blues

The only thing I can think of I wish I could try with Vista Home Premium that I can't is the Shadow Copy that's in business+ editions.

Right now I'm using a couple of command line tools written by somebody who liked the VMS file version feature. But it's manual. Not automatic like when you save files from an editor, compiler or whatever.

 

I noticed I have the Volume Shadowing with Ultimate. I don't even know what it is lol...What's the benefit? I am doing major upgrades this week. Today I installed 4GB of dual-channel RAM. Vista 32 recognizes only 3GB? I know XP does...I was thinking more down the line for Vista x64, if I ever get around to putting the freaking T7600 CPU in....

Tomorrow: Upgrade to 2x200GB 7,200 w/FDE drives. Gotta LOVE the Ultrabay hot-swappable Ultrabay innovation!

And hopefully by Friday, Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz...I want my Vista Experience Index to display nothing but 5's. RAM is at 4.9 when I had 2x1GB chips instead, and when I re-rated it with 4GB 2x2GB which show up in the BIOS just fine, the RAM index is still at 4.9???

 

file versioning lite

The benefit is file versioning without having to check files in and out like with a full blown CVS. Say you didn't notice this article you were writing for the New York Times Editorial Page had a bunch of stuff at the bottom(as in not showing onscreen) all munged up and you saved it!! Then you'd be hosed.
With shadowing you can say, give me the version before that one or 2 before that one or 3 before that one etc..

VMS had it built into the file system so when you saved a file there was a number trailing. To make the 4th newest file the newest file you just deleted the newest file then removed the number from the one you want. IOW, it was a real multi-user multi-tasking operating system.

 

What I would have liked to have seen was the WinFS, a new file system that would have allowed use of multiple tags for each document, much like Gmail does for email, instead of the traditional way of inserting a document in one folder and one folder only. As an instructor I constantly forget about stuff I have in my Economics folder, History, Politics, etc, because I spend so much time in the folder for that one class. I would love to keep everything in the "Documents" directory, and assign multiple tags to various documents.

And yes, the shadow copy--in Vista Home Basic. It didn't seem to make that version of Vista, at least.

 

file system

I just checked out the WinFS. Sounds radically different. I wonder if it will go the way of those 3D post-it note spinner things that you were supposed to twirl with the mouse to get the document you want.

Back in Win98 I wrote a Property Page handler just so I could add comments to files. When I saw the Summary thing in XP I figured they implemented it. Now in Vista it seems to be changed again. Jeez!

 

Yeah, like they changed the addresses of the user accounts' profiles (from the way they were in XP). For the first week or so after running Vista, I kept on clicking on those light yellow folder icons, wondering why Windows wasn't letting me in--till I realized that they were dummy (as in nonexistent) folders. Was there a good reason for the change? If so, was there a good reason to keep those non-functioning shortcuts there--as if to say, "Na-na-na-na-na-na."

 

locate32

btw psaulm119 I'm not sure from your previous post if this is helpful but rather than the built-in Windows Search thing I like to use
locate32 to search for files.

It's a freeware Windows port of the Linux locate command. By using it instead of Search I can disable the Windows Indexing Service so my hard drive doesn't appear to run on for no reason(being on the network all the time I get paranoid when all of a sudden my HD goes crazy)

afa the nyah nyah goes... I think that prolly starts more wars than just about anything

 

I'll bookmark the locate32 program. I like Vista's default search--just hit that Windows key and start typing. If Google Desktop Search gives me problems on XP I'll give locate32 a test drive. As far as the indexing goes, I wasn't aware that it was active much of the time, after the initial indexing--I know that they take an automatic update whenever you save a document, but I haven't noticed too many of those "revving up" noises on my laptop.

 

index

I think it's more pronounced if you're on a network with local caching enabled. The thing wants to keep checking all the machines on the Lan and making local copies of files in all the shared folders, indexing etc..

The most ironic incident when I first got the machine, I was using JkDefrag and it crashed because the system defrag.exe started up in the middle of the defrag!! Needless to say I disabled all scheduled tasks.