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Java error statement ????

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  1. 2002/08/10
    roehrle

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    I am getting missing links on a webpage that I am trying to visit. There is a gray bar where the link should be and I see down at the bottom of my screen the following message


    Any ideas to work this means and how I can get this link ???Exception java.lang illegal augument Exception red mast bit not contiguious
    Here is the webpage
    www.dryl.org
    I am using MSIE6
    Believe this has something to do with the Java Wars ??
     
  2. 2002/08/10
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    It does. I got mine working fine by downloading & installing java seperately.

    I did notice that when I visited the site, the java console icon appeared in systray so the site for sure does require it. But it worked fine.

    Look Here and toward the bottom of the page. The little box says for XP but it is for WinWhatever with IE-recent.
     
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  4. 2002/08/11
    Alice

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  5. 2002/08/12
    roehrle

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    HI Newt:
    I downloaded the Sun Java software but it didn't help. I still can't see the links at the bottom of the screen. I also don't see the java icon in the systray. Don't know if the Sun Java software was installed right..Is there a way of determining if it was installed ??
    Do you know what the differents is between msjavx86.exe and msvm...I installed the msjavx86 and I am wondering if this may be in conflict with other java software.
     
  6. 2002/08/15
    Alice

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    I have both Sun's Java and the Microsoft VM installed. Right now I'm using Microsoft's VM Build 3805 for Internet Explorer 5.5sp2, and Sun's Java for Mozilla 1.0rc3.

    You can check to see what MS Java build you have installed by typing JVIEW at the MS-Dos prompt. In Win9x or WinMe, you get there from Start Programs (Accessories?) MS-Dos Prompt, or go to Start Run, type Command.com and enter. After typing JVIEW and entering that, you should see "Microsoft Command-Line Loader for Java, Version........." the last 4 numbers will be your build. Then type EXIT to leave the MS-Dos prompt.

    msjavx86.exe is the installer program for MicroSoft (Java) Virtual Machine (msvm?)

    To see if you are in fact using Microsoft's VM go to IE Tools Internet Options, Advanced tab and see if there is a checkmark under Microsoft VM, in front of "JIT Compiler for Virtual Machine enabled (requires restart) "

    I guess the easiest way to see if Sun's java is installed correctly is to enable it. You can enable Sun's Java in Control Panel, Java Plugin Browser tab by placing a checkmark in front if Internet Explorer. That being done, in IE Tools Internet Options, Advanced tab...place a checkmark under of Java (Sun)... Use Java 2 v 1.4.xx for <applet>(requires restart) if it's not already checked, then go to a site that uses Java. The Java system tray icon should appear.

    EDIT:
    I see you started a new thread "Javascript problem? ", here:
    http://www.windowsbbs.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8028
     
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  7. 2002/08/15
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    Hi Alice:
    Thanks for the reply..It seems that this is getting to be very strange. I found the following link that clains that Frontpage 98 has a problem with hover buttons used in javascript. Apparently FP98 doesn't give directions to fphover.class
    here is the link that explains the problem
    http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/hover.shtml
    The stange part is that when I go there I can't see the hover buttons work which seems that my browser has a problem.
    The hover buttons seem to be causing my problem not being able to click on to the links at the bottom of the DRYL web page and this is javascript not java.
    I have version 5.00 3805 which I believe is the latest Java. All the settings that you talk about are set correctly.
     
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  8. 2002/08/15
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    Bob,

    I checked the page source and this is the coding for one of the links, right after the lighthouse.gif:
    <applet code= "fphover.class" width= "120" height= "24 ">
    <param name= "color" value= "#000080 ">
    <param name= "hovercolor" value= "#0000FF ">
    <param name= "textcolor" value= "#FFFFFF ">
    <param name= "text" value= "DRYL Pages ">
    <param name= "url" valuetype= "ref" value= "about_dryl.htm ">

    <param name= "effect" value= "glow ">
    </applet>

    I know very little about java programming or javascript but <applet> and .class files are what Java runs, unless I'm wrong..

    Maybe someone that knows programming can jump in and help analyze the page.
     
  9. 2002/08/16
    Alice

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    Just to make sure we are on the same page, are you trying the site with either Sun's Java OR the Microsoft VM enabled? You shouldn't have both items checked in IE Tools, Internet Options, Advanced tab. You should also restart IE and possibly windows when switching from one to the other.

    Also it wouldn't hurt to clear (delete) your Temporary Internet Files before trying the site again.

    Other than that I'm out of ideas for now.
     
  10. 2002/08/16
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    Hi Alice:
    Yes I do have both boxes checked in Options. It appears that i am running MsVM because when I run jview it reports 5.00 3805
    From what I gathered in the link I posted yesterday that the problem I am having may be because the webmaster that wrote that page may have a problem because files are not located in the proper directory. If that is true why is it that some people are able to see the hover links and other can't. I would think that if it is because of missing files at the source of the website that no one would be able to see the hover buttons ???
     
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    I just tried the link from work where I have the M$ java version you & Alice have. And java checked in internet options/advanced. Console enabled. JIT enabled. Logging not enabled.

    The page works fine. Links are live. And I don't have the regular Sun Java stuff installed here.
     
  12. 2002/08/16
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    Hi Alice & Newt:
    First ,thanks for the help. I think I solved part of my problems. I now can see the hover buttons..I believe what happen was when I ran msjavx86 it went to a Temp file. I found this by using FIND *.class and located all these *.class files. I moved them to c:/window/java and now most all my java applets are working. The thing I'm not quite sure of..It seems the java directory is about 40 meg's which really seems large..Is this about the normal size ?? It seems that the *.class files needed to run the applets should be D/L-ed with the applets??? .I guess I have to spend a more time studing how these applets work and what they need to run, and where they belong.. Not that I want to learn java at this time but it sounds like a good winter project...Too much to do this summer and with time running short I have to make the most of what is left of the good sailing season.
    Thanks again for your help in getting me though this problem.
     
  13. 2002/08/17
    Alice

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    ???

    Any files left over in Windows\Temp after an installation should remain there until after a reboot since some setup programs need them there to complete the install.. Normally these files should then disappear, but sometimes an install doesn't clean up after itself.

    I don't have any .class files at all in C:\Windows\Java.

    I have 11 .zip files ( total: 11.3 MB) in Windows\Java\Packages and 26 .dat files (total 58k) in Windows\Java\Packages\Data . The only other file is Osp.cer, 2.61k, in Windows\Java\Classes.

    You must have done something to get java working...maybe UNchecked the setting for Sun's java? You should either have Microsoft VM or Sun's Java plugin enabled in IE's Advanced tab, not both.

    Anyway I would delete all the .class files you added to C:\Windows\Java since they don't belong there.
     
  14. 2002/08/18
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    If I were you, I would download a fresh version of msjavx86 and reinstall it. As mentioned earlier, it is not a really good idea to move things from the temp folder untill all installations are complete. Even then, cleaning the temp folder out is best done by Disk Cleanup. many apps use the temp folder for temporary storage when they are running, which is why Disk Cleanup leaves some files behind (the ones that have been recently accessed, in case they are needed again).

    Still---get a recent MS java and reinstall.

    Note: The Sun Java applet in control panel will allow you to switch off the IE plugin so you can be sure you are using MS Java.
     
  15. 2002/08/18
    roehrle

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    This is really getting strange...Yesterday I was able to see the links on thewww.dryl.org website but today when I checked they were gone again Could it possible be some bad code in the win386.swp file that keeps replacing its self ?? If so is there a way to start off with a clean file instead of replacing my win 98 SE ??
    Abraxas...It is very hard to get a MS Java because MS recently pulled that file. I did get a copy from Germany and installed that the other day when I got things working again.
     
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    You didn't say what OS, but the most recent version of MS Java for XP is available from Microsoft here:
    http://tinyurl.com/oca
     
  17. 2002/08/19
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    Don't really see how there could be data in win386.swp causing you problems.

    But you can pretty well get a clean start with it. Boot to DOS. Then del c:\windows\win386.swp

    You will get a new, clean copy when you reboot and windows starts up.
     
  18. 2002/08/20
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    OK here is what I did today. I deleted all my java files and then went to the website that is causing me problems with the hover buttons. Got a pop-up message that said I could not view this page unless I download the java solfware ,which i did. The file was 5 megs and appears to be exactly all the files I had before. The thing that now has me confused is the c:/windows Java/package contain 7 *.zip files. Should I open these zip files or does Java do this when it needs a certain file that is called for in an applet ??? . BTW I didn't see any unload program in my control panel/add/remove for Java so
    I just deleted the C:/window/java file which I guess isn't the best way to do it.
    PS...After D/l-ing the new java software I ended up with the same results.
     
  19. 2002/08/22
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    No need to open any zip files! As you found out, the Microsoft Java VM does NOT have an uninstall option. You shouldn't have deleted the Windows\Java files.

    Make sure IE Tools Internet Options, Advanced tab has a checkmark under Microsoft VM, in front of "JIT Compiler for Virtual Machine enabled (the Sun Java plugin should be UNchecked) and try the site again. Just to make sure that the problem is not specifc to that site, try another site that uses java.

    Here is a test page that loads a Java Applet (from a NG post I found)
    http://www.keypress.com/sketchpad/java_gsp/gallery.html

    Here is a page that uses java to display your current Microsoft Java VM build if you access the page using Internet Explorer. Look under "Windows 95/98/Me/NT4/2000/XP -- Java Support" http://www.visualware.com/support/javasupport.html#windows By the way, this page also contains a direct link to download the Microsoft Java VM 3805 installer from the "Visualware" FTP site
     
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    HI Alice:
    I was able to see the first link that you listed and I could use the Geometer sketchpad. Went to the second link and it reported that I am using 5.00 3805. It almost appears now that there is a problem with the way the hover buttons in the DRYL website are written may be the problem but...why are some people able to see the links and others can't ????
    I noticed that some of the statements in the hover buttons are different when only the color and position statements should be.
    I read somewhere that there was a problem with FP98 NOT including a CODEBASE statement in the hover buttons code. Here is a statement from the DRYL code that appears to be missing the codebase statement ....

    <applet code= "fphover.class" width= "124" height= "24 ">

    And here is one with the CODEBASE statement ....

    <applet code= "fphover.class" codebase= "./" width= "144" height= "24 ">

    The missing codebase statement appears in several of the DRYL hover button sections of code. The DRYL site is using FP2000 and I don't know if this problem was corrected in the FP2000 version.

    One other point..Why are all the *.zip files in the Java directory ??
    Does Java open these when needed ??? I know that Java aplication sometimes take a long time to load.
     
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    If your Java problems are only on that one site I would let the webpage creator know about it. It could be a combination of the page coding and your system configuration.
    I don't know but you are not alone: http://www.abiglime.com/webmaster/boards/java/posts/552.htm
    There are hover button examples and a coding forum link at http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/hover.shtml in case you want to delve deeper.

    About the usage of the .zip files in the Windows\Java\Packages folder when running a java applet, I don't know the answer.
     
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