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5.7.1 Authentication

Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by derfsch, 2007/11/05.

  1. 2007/11/05
    derfsch

    derfsch Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hi All,

    The title of this post applies only indirectly to my question. After I set up a sub-account in Verizon web mail I had my main account there and in Thunderbird version 2.0.0.6. Similarly, the sub-account appeared in each mail location. They had addresses of userX@verizon.net for the main and userZ@verizon.net for the sub-account. The 5.7.1 Authorization alert appeared depending on which user name appeared in the Account Setting screen for Outgoing Server (SMTP) block and which account I was using. If the Outgoing Server had userZ@verizon.net and I was sending from the main account, the 5.7.1 alert appeared and mail would not be sent until the user name in the Outgoing Server block was changed to the proper name. Similarly with the sub-account and userX@verizon.net in the Outgoing Server block. To send mail in either case usually meant changing or checking the compatibility before sending.

    A review of this situation indicates that the problem goes back to 2002. Solutions offered then and since reference screens that are no longer available for the later TB versions. I suspect that the way to fix this condition has something to do with a default sender but I haven't been able to set up a default sender. The screen for the main account has Set as Default grayed out. The screen for the sub-account offers Set as Default but I prefer not to have that condition because sending from the sub-account will rarely be done. So will one of you experts with multiple accounts help me. Thank you.
     
  2. 2007/11/05
    Westside

    Westside Inactive Alumni

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    Verizon does what it does to prevent spam from their own subscribers, and irritate them to the max. Spam, usually, does not come internally.
    So you need to create a SMTP for each address. Each one authenticated.
    As you set up your mail, only the primary address creates a SMTP. Any secondary addresses, are "strangers, and spammers" if they try to send with the primary address. So, you will have to go to your Outgoing server, and add one smtp/address, and use that address to send. This is an old story.
    I have five accounts with my ISP, and four additional ones with AOL and aim.com. However, my ISP allows me to send with any of them, using the same SMTP.
    By the way the Set as Default is meaningless with the requirements from Verizon. And, it greyed out in my computer, unless I select an account. Basically, setting as default will bring the account to the top of the list.
    I have my mail set up in NS7.2, Seamonkey1.1.5, and 2.0a1 pre, as well as Thunderbird and Eudora. All five have a different default, but the the SMTP is the same.
     

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  4. 2007/11/06
    derfsch

    derfsch Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Westside,

    From your response I gather that there is no easy (Verizon) solution to having one account (default) for transmission of mail when I have multiple accounts. Although disappointing, I can live with the present situation since as previously stated I rarely will be using the sub-account for transmission. Thank you for your helpful explanation.
     
  5. 2007/11/06
    Westside

    Westside Inactive Alumni

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    As far as I understand, it, simply, is not possible. And, Verizon is not the only ISP which does this. Many more ISPs, these days, require that whoever receive will also have a set up for sending.
    I do not, fully, understand the logic behind this, but it is all in the name of reducing spam (I wish!).
     

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