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New Router Config?

Discussion in 'Networking (Hardware & Software)' started by Chawni12, 2007/10/27.

  1. 2007/10/27
    Chawni12

    Chawni12 Inactive Thread Starter

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    What is the deal with newer routers today? The last time I bought a router (Belkin G) was about 2 yrs ago. I configed it just the way I wanted it. I was using NetMeeting and mIRC with a file sharing script with NO problem. I need to replace it now because as all routers do eventyally, it started to drop connections. I had bought another Belkin AND a Netgear and taken them both back because no matter how I config the settings (enabled DMZ, disabled the firewall, set up the port forwarding) they will NOT work! Do I need to buy one specific? Spend more money? I just don't get it? I expect my router to do what "I" want it to do, not what the router thinks is best for me. I dont need all the "security ". I have my own firewall and internet security. Can someone shed some light on the subject? Any suggestions would be appreciated and I will get what ever router will allow me to config it my way no matter the cost.
    Thanks in advance.
     
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    visionof

    visionof Inactive

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    wish you told us more
    Routers have not changed much in a couple years
    The only differences is that the newer high end routers are now pre- n with g /b
    No real differences otherwise - unless you buy some really low end product that have somewhat more limited features
    Other than than that the routers are ail fairly similar and have not changed much in the last number of years
     

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  4. 2007/10/28
    Chawni12

    Chawni12 Inactive Thread Starter

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    What more would you like to know? The only difference I can see in my old router compared to the new ones is that I can put all the computers in my home network in the DMZ on the old. The newer ones only let u put one. Like I said I am trying to get netmeeting (on this computer) and an mIRC file sharing script to work on my spare computer. Neither will work. I even have ip passthrough set on my DSL modem. Im not a novice. I have referred to the manuals and called a useless tech support person that I was on the phone with for 30 mins. I'm disgusted at this point and wonder if I will ever get a router to work the way I want it to. I want a router, not a fortress.
    Thanks
     
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    ReggieB

    ReggieB Inactive Alumni

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    I expect it is NAT that is causing the problem. Is your ISP providing you with a range of IPs or just one?
     
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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    1. Most home routers made in the last 8 byears have only allowed 1 computer to be placed in the DMZ, UNLESS your ISP is providing you with multiple IP addresses. If only get 1 IP address from your ISP then use static addressing for each LAN workstation.

    2. Realize, that sticking all lan computers in the DMZ is risky and defeats one of the main purpose of a router. A DMZ computer is wide open from the WAN and must then rely on a software firewall for security. This consumes resources and memory of the workstation, it's more efficient to put that load on the router.

    3. The better way to use P2P, Netmeeting, etc with a router is to use Port Forwarding along with UPnP. Most home routers now have configs for UPnP.

    4. By default, most home routers don't filter ports on the LAN side, so you shouldn't even need any special rules to use P2P, Netmeeting, etc on the LAN side. If it doesn't work then some software is blocking it, such as Windows Firewall.
     
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    Chawni12

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    I have played with the NAT settings and nothing worked.

    The router I have is 2 yrs old and allows up to 4 IP addresses to be placed in the DMZ.
    I thought the purpose of a router was to share the ISP connection with other computers in the "home network, not to police my computer.
    I have firewall and internet security software for that.

    My windows firewall is disabled so thats not the problem.

    I had no problems with my Belkin Wireless G F5D7230-4. It was configed perfect and Netmeeting and my mIRC file sharing script were working.

    Why switching routers would cause my 2 programs not to work is beyond me and why I would have to change to a P2P or UPnP all of a sudden doesnt make sense which by the way, I played with as well and still didnt work.
    I have tried disbling every firewall and security setting I have in my computer and the router JUST to see if it would work. It won't. After process of elimination it seems to me that the only thing in the loop that was added and then after, caused the programs not to work, was the router.
    I am truly STUMPED.
     
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    ReggieB Inactive Alumni

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    TonyT

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    That's just one of a router's purposes. Another purpose is to prevent unauthorized access to the subnet from outside of it. A router using NAT will disallow unsolicited traffic from the WAN. Some routers also are capable of monitoring outbound traffic as well, eliminating any need at all for a software firewall. Use the router's CPU cycles instead of the PC's CPU cycles for firewalling.

    NetMeeting 2.0 through 3.01 requires you to forward the 522,389,1024-65535 ports. See how to do this for your particular router at:
    http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Belkin/F5D7230-4/F5D7230-4index.htm
     

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