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Problem with attachments...

Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by brucemitchell, 2007/09/14.

  1. 2007/09/16
    captjlddavis

    captjlddavis Well-Known Member

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    When you select "Send Page" , regardless from where you are selecting from,you are just sending a LINK to the page, Not the page.....

    I am not familiar with any other browsers. So I can't say. But the same thing seems to effect FireFox and TB.


    Sorry, but you lost me here.....:confused:

    I have been unable to find out just where the "alert" is generated, but it seems to be present in both SM and TB.....

    regards:captjlddavis
     
  2. 2007/09/16
    Ramona

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    I have answered my own question. The message does originate in the OS, as we all pretty much have figured out. It is generated by Outlook Express, and is one of the changes to functionality in Microsoft Windows XP, SP2. Take a look at this MSKB Article: Part 4: E-mail Handling Technologies

     

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  4. 2007/09/16
    brucemitchell

    brucemitchell Inactive Thread Starter

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    cptjlddavis,

    The point I was making in respect of the first Quote is that the message is generated after you right click on the page to send it, but not if you use the top menu bar 'send page' facility to send it. That fact might help identify the source of the message to someone who knows more than I do.

    For some reason, I did not have this attachment problem with Thunderbird/Firefox. I am not worried about the history, only with sending pages now. Which Zip program did you use to get your results? (I see there is a an AutoZip for Thunderbird 0.5.4 and wonder if that is suitable?

    My comment in your third quote refers to the fact than when I send and receive a page sent directly (and not off HD) the age that appears inline in the body of the message contains the images, but when I open the attachment page I do not get the images. I offered that comment in case the distinction between the two might identify the problem?

    Regards, Bruce
     
  5. 2007/09/16
    brucemitchell

    brucemitchell Inactive Thread Starter

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    Problems with attachments...

    Thanks Ramona, for finding that...

    It looks quite significant. I wonder if Microsoft, via their updates, have progressively recognised new mail programs. Unlike cptjlddavis, I had no problem whilst using Thunderbird in the three months prior to switching to SeaMonkey. Perhaps SeaMonkey is not recognised and doesn't enjoy the functionality Microsoft offer.

    Please note, I have Outlook Express "resident" on my machine, but not used.

    Regards, Bruce
     
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  6. 2007/09/16
    brucemitchell

    brucemitchell Inactive Thread Starter

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    Ramona,

    I have tried understanding the Microsoft article, but it is a "bit over my head ". To someone not "up to speed" with technical terms, it is like reading a foreign language. So much effort is spent understanding what is written that "lateral thinking" is shut down! I can't establish what I can salvage from it to use.

    If there are changes I can make/check to OE or SeaMonkey to try, please let me know.

    This certainly seems to be the root of the problem.

    regards, Bruce
     
  7. 2007/09/16
    Ramona

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    Bruce,

    I understand overload! This has been a learning experience for me, and when I can't find an answer, even tho a workaround is available, it drives me to distraction.

    I have resolved the issue at last, without having to zip the graphics folder and HTM file. By implementing the below solution you can click on an HTM file on your HD, and all images/graphics will be displayed in the web page.

    Close SeaMonkey

    Open Outlook Express found in C:\Program Files\Outlook Express
    (Double Click on the msimn.exe file)
    I've never opened this program either! :eek:

    Next:
    Click on Tools | Options
    Click on the Security Tab
    Disable: Block images and other external content in HTML e-mail
    OK your way out of OE

    Open SeaMonkey, and find an HTM file on your HD and double click. Voilà!
     
  8. 2007/09/16
    captjlddavis

    captjlddavis Well-Known Member

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    Bruce,
    We seem to be having a breakdown in communications
    here.

    If you right click on this page, and select "Send Page" - your default mail clients opens with the URL:
    http://www.windowsbbs.com/showthread.php?t=67546&page=2
    inserted and attached......

    The same results as you get from File-> "Send Page" ...link inserted and attached......
    How you are set up to view attachements dictates what you see on your end when you receive it.....if set up to view in line the it appears in line.......

    If you select File->Send Link - Mail client opens with LINK INSERTED but NOT ATTACHED.......

    In FF 2.0.0.4 and TB 2.0.0.6 the results are the same........
    FF Right click "Send Link" = open default mail with link inserted...
    There is NO "Send Page" on context menu.....
    No Send Page in File menu either....

    I am starting to get a little punchy here, so "caveat lector "

    As to your zip question - I don't know....

    regards:captjlddavis
     
  9. 2007/09/16
    Ramona

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    O.K., I'm getting way ahead of myself. On one page, all graphics showed up in the attached web page. However when saving this BBS page, not all graphics were included in the attached web page, and the warning msg. appeared again...

    Sorry about that, as I thought we were finished with this darned thing!
     
  10. 2007/09/16
    brucemitchell

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    Thanks for both messages Ramona,

    Since coming back from lunch, I have been trying to get it to work as per your first message. I agree it hasn't changed. I doubt changing OE settings will make the difference. Before I re-booted the problem existed with my earlier functional settings in OE.

    I knew IE needed to reside in the background for the SeaMonkey Navigator to work, but I was unaware that OE was needed as well. If SM is dependant on OE, then it is the link between the two that is the problem. The OE functionality is not brought forward to, or is over-riden by something in, SeaMonkey. I am quite glad there are three of us aware of this - I don't have "leprosy" after all!

    Bruce
     
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    brucemitchell

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    cptjlddavis, sorry, your message and Ramona's were posted at the same time. I received a notice of Ramona's which, unusually, was the bottom one. I focussed on replying to her, unaware that you had posted as well. i will now reply to yours...

    I agree that I have the option to send a Link or send an Attachment. personally it is very rare that I send a link. Most material I send is "archive" material from my hard disc. It is sent as an attachment. I have been doing for 10 years. It has worked perfectly up until I started with SeaMonkey. Files sent as an attachment in SeaMonkey are not displaying their images. Webpages sent directly as an attachment retain their complete layout INLINE, but the attached file lacks images although it retains, layout, colours, etc. Attachments sent from the Hard disc do not retain their layout etc and do not feature images.

    In respect of the manner in which I receive attachments, I am unaware of any facility that allows me to determine the configuration. Perhaps you could point one out to me. It might, as you say, dictate what I see. Hopefully my clients won't all need to change the configurations on their various mail programs to be able to read it as well.

    Regards, Bruce Mitchell
     
  12. 2007/09/16
    captjlddavis

    captjlddavis Well-Known Member

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    Bruce.
    Unfortunately I know of no way in current versions to send a saved web page complete from the HD other than zipping the two files and sending the zipped file.

    Hopefully someone can come up with a solution.

    regards:captjlddavis
     
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  13. 2007/09/18
    brucemitchell

    brucemitchell Inactive Thread Starter

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    Ramona,

    I would like to thank you very much for your efforts in trying to resolve this issue. I searched "google" and Mozilla forums to try and find a solution for myself. It that process I noted your contributions to resolving other matters. Your clear focus on the job in hand spurred me to the unprecedented step of enrolling in a forum such as this. Working at national level on various statutory and community authorities has given me a clear impression of the value of focussed contributions. Please keep up the good work.

    I am used to resolving issues so I will continue the process for myself. In case you see there is something here to resolve for others, I will add one last observation. In my initial posting I included an observation that Composer "times out ". It seems to drop the html content and revert to plain test at that point. There are other manifestations of that timing out. Yesterday I had an email replied to by the Police from their computer. My email had a jpeg attachment which came back with the reply. While I was typing my reply to them the attachment suddenly disappeared. Also, if I compose an email offline and the same time interval is exceeded SeaMonkey endeavours to go online. The events seem to be linked.

    I appreciate the work that has gone into the development of SeaMonkey. Aside from this problem, it is a product I really like. I wish the team well in its further development.

    Thanks, Bruce Mitchell
     
  14. 2007/09/20
    Ramona

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    Bruce, et al,

    As this thread pertains to the attachment issue, I moved the last three replies to a new thread:
    E-mail Composer "Times Out ".

    This begins addressing the second issue that was mentioned in your original thread.
     

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