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Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Harpo, 2007/07/22.

  1. 2007/07/22
    Harpo

    Harpo Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I've got one of those newfangled small-box computers with an "integrated" mobo. It's got a 120GB HD with a recovery partition. This is the first time I've had a computer with a recovery partition, so I've never relied on it, and would actually question whether or not I should keep it - especially since in the last week it has suddenly started giving an error message that the partition drive (D: ) is low on space, with prompts to empty the recycle bin (it's always empty), uninstall Windows components, delete all but most recent restore points (done), etc. There's nothing left I can do to "free up space" on drive D. I have also tried to defrag, but Disk Defragmenter says I don't need to defrag, AND there's 0% free space, so it doesn't want to run anyway. It's prompting me to delete files or programs. I've already deleted old restore points.

    1)Why am I getting this message and how can I make it go away?
    2) Is it recommended to maintain a recovery partition when I regularly back up, and don't rely on "saved" settings?
     
  2. 2007/07/23
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    That depends on whether or not the computer came with an XP install or recovery disk. If you have no disk that partition contains a mirror of your OS and should be left alone. It is the only way of reinstalling the OS which came with the computer - refer to the manual for more info. Very doubtful that any changes made to the system by you are recorded there.
    Description of the Low Disk Space Notification in Windows XP and how to turn it off. I am assuming that drive D is the Recovery Partition?

    Also check that System Restore is not running on that recovery partition - if it is turn it off - on that drive D:\ only.

    Right click My Computer icon > Properties > System Restore
     

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  4. 2007/07/23
    Harpo

    Harpo Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hi Pete,

    No, the computer did not come with an install/recovery disk (which absolutely *amazes* me), but I did make a 3-CD recovery set when the computer was new.

    Yes, drive D is the recovery partition, and System Restore *was* monitoring drive D. I have turned that off. But *if* that partition is necessary, won't it also be necessary to resolve what's causing the low disk space and then re-enable System Restore on that drive?

    I have also read the page provided in the link, but don't see how turning off the notification will fix the problem, only the symptom that's telling me there *is* a problem.

    Sooooo, here's an idea, what do you think? I have Partition Magic. I *could* resize drive D temporarily to gain access to it. Once I've gained access, how do I discover what has caused the low disk message, and how do I determine what's needed for recovery? OR, since I have the recovery disks, is it safe to delete that partition entirely and rely on the recovery disks in case of emergency?

    Thanks.
     
  5. 2007/07/23
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    Hi Harpo

    Sounds like it may be an HP-Compaq - my last laptop was an HP Business and has a recovery partition and offered a one off chance to make a set of recovery disks, which I did. Likewise I have just bought an HP Business tower with Vista Business preloaded on which to familiarise myself with Vista and that too has a recovery partition, but I have not seen the option to make a set of disks - haven't looked actually :)

    In fact you did get a set of disks, but on a DIY basis :)

    As you have made the disks there is no real need to keep the recovery partition if you need the space. I am surmising that the reason you are seeing the low disk warning is probably due to System Restore running on the drive and taking up unnecessary and unplanned for space. System Restore only monitors System files - there are no active system files on the recovery partition - just a mirror of the drive as originally supplied. Hence there is absolutely no point in running System Restore on pure data drives. I do not believe that there is a problem as such and turning off the notification will remove the irritating message.

    So you have two equally viable options ....

    Either retain the recovery partition and turn off the messaging - advantage you have a double backup of the original OS, or ....

    Delete the partition - PM will do the trick, and create a new partition for data storage or extend the C:\ drive to fill the whole disk. You can always copy the recovery disk set you made for extra security if you feel so inclined.

    Your call :)
     
  6. 2007/07/23
    Harpo

    Harpo Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks, Pete. I think I will delete the partition. But before I do, I have a related question.

    Opening Partition Magic, it indicates that there are 33.7MB free on drive D, which it shows as a primary partition(?) Recently I've been having trouble with my backup DVDs saying they are full when they've only got ~2.5GB of data on them - even after erasing/reformatting them. I was able to free up the remaining space on the DVDs by using a second burning program.

    Is it possible that these two "malfunctions" are related?
     
  7. 2007/07/24
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    The Recovery partition will be a Primary partition - have checked both my HP's - because the recovery process needs to boot from that partition.

    On any hard drive you can have up to 4 primary partitions - an explanation here and ....
    Your problem regarding DVD burning would be best served in a new thread - I do not have an immediate answer :)
     
  8. 2007/07/24
    Harpo

    Harpo Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks for the info!
     
  9. 2007/07/24
    visionof

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    Hard to say about keeping partition
    It is an OS with drivers that comes with the device
    Often however these versions of windows are so laden with hidden software that slow you to a crawl ( read hp)

    To turn off the low disk notification it seems to be a registry fix

    links: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-1035_11-5210496.html

    oe http://home.earthlink.net/~lreynol929/ruXP/ContPanl/lowspace.htm

    http://www.tweakxp.com/article37577.aspx

    It would be a good idea to free up space for the virtual memory of windows to run


    some ideas-

    uninstall programs and windows and windows components not needed
    check for orphan program folders
    general cleanup and defrag
    turn off or reduce system restore from the 10 % of hard drive space allocation default
    ditto for the trash can allocation
    freeing up space should speed the computer up.
    typically the partition with the os backup are not that big ( could be wrong)
     
  10. 2007/07/25
    PeteC

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    visionof
    That was posted in post #2 - please read the thread before responding and do not duplicate.
     

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