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Windows Vista User Account Control In Vista

Discussion in 'Legacy Windows' started by whompuscat, 2007/07/05.

  1. 2007/07/12
    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    Thanks Charles. I supposed I sholud have read the article more thougholy before asking very obvious questions. :eek: :eek: Anyway though like I said I hope Windows Vista SP1 won't be a dissapoitment like some of the other annoying features in Windows Vista when it gets released around November. :rolleyes:
     
  2. 2007/07/14
    sparrow

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    This is the problem:
    You must always rt-clk the application to run it as administrator.

    See "Application Compatibility Cookbook ".
     

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  4. 2007/07/14
    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    Hi Sparrow. That quote you said isn't 100% true. There is an easier way to run a program as an administrator without doing the right click method every time. :cool:

    Try this:

    1. Right click the application
    2. Go to properties
    3. Go to the shortcut tab
    4. Under the shortcut tab click advanced
    5. Tick the box that says run as administrator
    6. Press apply then ok


    Once you do that then you can simply left click the application and it will automatically run with administrator permisissions. I found that this worked on command prompt nicely because I was tired of having to right click and choose run as administrator all the time. Now though I can just left click it and it starts right up without any other steps being taken. :)
     
  5. 2007/07/14
    sparrow

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    That's what I said. I meant you can't continue to left-click as usual. I felt that the information in your post was superfluous since it's obvious that you have several choices when you see the menu resulting from rt-clicking, and the extra discussion detracts from my point, which is clearly stated in my quote. That same reference is worth study and has the method you quoted, in addition to more information and options.
     
  6. 2007/07/15
    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    Hi again sparrow. After taking another specific look at the link you posted earlier I now see that the method I mentioned above was already adressed. The reason I posted about the other obvious method of running a program as an administrator was because:

    1. I didn't read the article 100% thougholy through the link you posted
    2. I wanted to provide step by step instrctions on how to run the selected application as an administrator so some of the novice users who are reading this thread will be able to follow what we are talking about


    Yes I do realize that from right clicking the application you could go to properties and be able to figure this out yourself. Some people though aren't that smart and need specific instructions on what do to. So I was merely posting the other method so as nocive users could attempt it and not have to right click the selected application everytime. Anyway I hope there wasn't a huge misunderstanding between us and I realize we are all trying to help each other. So I will try not to post such obvious statements and comments that have already been adressed by other people. ;)
     
  7. 2007/07/15
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    Hi Evan Omo,
    We're not having a difference. i agree with you that specific directions are worthwhile. I also agree with you that my choice of "always" was misleading. My mind was only on the quote and not paying close attention to the rest.

    Also, there're other ways to adjust security, such as running gpedit.msc or secpol.msc, that in some cases are preferable.

    I felt the quote made all this more understandable.
     
  8. 2007/07/15
    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    Im glad that we understand each other and are on the same page of things. :D
     
  9. 2007/07/17
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  10. 2007/07/18
    sparrow

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    Have decided to turn it off on PCs I work with - any single owner machine. It seems to be of value to the corporate world only.
    And in Home Prem. it's not in the .msc files, but in the user screens in control panel as a box ro check or not.

    With adaquate security and backup, it's not needed IMHO.
     
  11. 2007/07/18
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    Well I run, Spyware Doctor, WinPatrol, IE Spyads, Spyware Blaster, Customs Host File and at present McAfee (which I hate), I scan every day with Spyware Doctor and McAfee and every few days with Ad Aware and SpyBot, so I consider myself pretty well protected and I back up my files daily. I rarely have anything come up with a scan, maybe 1 or 2 tracking cookies.

    I have NIS 2007 but hesitant about installing because it is so intrusive and bogs down the system. There is one feature I like about NIS that I haven't found with any other AV or firewall, and that is that you can turn it off and on via the system tray icon without having to open the program and hunt for the option. Wish I could find a good one that is user friendly like that, but Nortons caused so many problems on my XP that I uninstalled it one month after I got it because of some glitch that kept it from making system check points in system restore, which according to google search everyone knew about EXCEPT Symantec, so that has left a bitter taste for NIS. I have always used NIS and the problems started with NIS 2006 and just got worse with 2007.

    But I find it very odd that you do not have adminstration signin, or that with UAC on it blocks programs that are system programs such as msconfig. Everytime I start my computer I have to tell it over and over again it's ok to run such and such program.

    I feel sorry for the people who are not computer literate if they get Vista, as confused as I was I can imagine how they must feel in just trying to do everyday tasks.

    But to buy a system with Vista installed and be the adminstrator/owner and then to find out that basically you have a "limited" user account just doesn't make any sense to me. I feel more like MS is trying to control me instead of protecting me............ IMHO And as I stated in my previous post there is no way at least that I have found from hours of googling and reading to get the adminstrative account to show. One post said that it gives 5 times to login with the adminstrative account and then it disables it and nothing I have found works to enable it on Vista Home Premium.

    There are other problems with Vista also, exlorer.exe has encountered a problem and has to shutdown and restart way too many times. I had problems with run32.dll having to shutdown numerous times. And SLOW, my gosh you'd think 2 gigs of RAM would be enough, but it takes forever for it to open anything, even the menus when u mouse over and I have the bare minimum running, no extra programs to start up except the system programs and my protection. Some have stated that this is because of the indexing service but guess I'm getting off subject here.

    Very frustrating!!!! :mad:
     
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  12. 2007/07/18
    beto666

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    I still keep to the advising myself a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...

    Turn off the whole UAC first thing in the morning after. Keep a good AV proggie running. That's all! The system thanx.

    Too many maneuvers to have this thing on! :rolleyes:
     

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