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Windows Vista IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL BSODs, Logs included

Discussion in 'Legacy Windows' started by Soundwave1983, 2007/05/31.

  1. 2007/05/31
    Soundwave1983

    Soundwave1983 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hello everyone,

    Lately I keep getting some really annoying BSODs, and after walking though the usual Virus/Spyware/Memtest/HDD/Temerature checkups with no result, I decided it might be better to let the real pros have a look at it....so here goes:

    The system itself is barely 2 weeks old and consists of:
    AMD Athlon 64 5600 X2 CPU
    2 GB DDR800 RAM from Crucial in 5.5.5-15 timings
    Abit AN9 32X Fatality (nForce 590 SLI), newest BIOS
    XFX 8800 GTX Videocard
    2x 320 GB Western Digital SATA2 HDD
    Plextor 716A DVD Burner
    LG DVD Drive
    Tagan 600W Power Supply
    Windows Vista Business, all updates installed.
    No overclocking or other stuff done that could harm system stability.

    I ran Memtest over night and checked all Voltages and Temperatures, everything in the green area.
    Now here is the log from the last BSOD:

    Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.7.0005.0
    Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    Loading Dump File [C:\Users\Helmi\Desktop\Mini053107-02.dmp]
    Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available

    Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
    Executable search path is: C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows\system32\drivers
    Windows Vista Kernel Version 6000 MP (2 procs) Free x86 compatible
    Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
    Built by: 6000.16386.x86fre.vista_rtm.061101-2205
    Kernel base = 0x81c00000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0x81d11db0
    Debug session time: Thu May 31 13:03:12.234 2007 (GMT+2)
    System Uptime: 0 days 0:25:31.054
    Loading Kernel Symbols
    ....................................................................................................................................
    Loading User Symbols
    Loading unloaded module list
    .............................
    *******************************************************************************
    * *
    * Bugcheck Analysis *
    * *
    *******************************************************************************

    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

    BugCheck A, {4cb1dd8, 2, 1, 81ca9b83}

    Probably caused by : ntkrpamp.exe ( nt!KiTimerExpiration+64a )

    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------

    0: kd> !analyze -v;r;kv;lmtn;.logclose;q
    *******************************************************************************
    * *
    * Bugcheck Analysis *
    * *
    *******************************************************************************

    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (a)
    An attempt was made to access a pageable (or completely invalid) address at an
    interrupt request level (IRQL) that is too high. This is usually
    caused by drivers using improper addresses.
    If a kernel debugger is available get the stack backtrace.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: 04cb1dd8, memory referenced
    Arg2: 00000002, IRQL
    Arg3: 00000001, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation
    Arg4: 81ca9b83, address which referenced memory

    Debugging Details:
    ------------------


    WRITE_ADDRESS: GetPointerFromAddress: unable to read from 81d315ac
    Unable to read MiSystemVaType memory at 81d11780
    04cb1dd8

    CURRENT_IRQL: 2

    FAULTING_IP:
    nt!KiTimerExpiration+64a
    81ca9b83 83a03405000000 and dword ptr [eax+534h],0

    CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 2

    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT

    BUGCHECK_STR: 0xA

    PROCESS_NAME: waol.exe

    TRAP_FRAME: 82658e2c -- (.trap 0xffffffff82658e2c)
    .trap 0xffffffff82658e2c
    ErrCode = 00000002
    eax=81cf4820 ebx=00000001 ecx=0000006b edx=00000001 esi=82658f38 edi=82658f5c
    eip=81ca9b83 esp=82658ea0 ebp=82658f88 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz ac po cy
    cs=0008 ss=0010 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0030 gs=0000 efl=00010213
    nt!KiTimerExpiration+0x64a:
    81ca9b83 83a03405000000 and dword ptr [eax+534h],0 ds:0023:81cf4d54=00000000
    .trap
    Resetting default scope

    LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 81ca9b83 to 81c8fc44

    STACK_TEXT:
    82658e2c 81ca9b83 badb0d00 00000001 00000000 nt!KiTrap0E+0x2ac
    82658f88 81ca9321 00000000 00000000 00017ec3 nt!KiTimerExpiration+0x64a
    82658ff4 81c90d8d 9613f7e4 00000000 00000000 nt!KiRetireDpcList+0xba
    82658ff8 9613f7e4 00000000 00000000 00000000 nt!KiDispatchInterrupt+0x3d
    WARNING: Frame IP not in any known module. Following frames may be wrong.
    81c90d8d 00000000 0000001a 00c1850f bb830000 0x9613f7e4


    STACK_COMMAND: kb

    FOLLOWUP_IP:
    nt!KiTimerExpiration+64a
    81ca9b83 83a03405000000 and dword ptr [eax+534h],0

    SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 1

    FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

    MODULE_NAME: nt

    IMAGE_NAME: ntkrpamp.exe

    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 4549ae00

    SYMBOL_NAME: nt!KiTimerExpiration+64a

    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: 0xA_W_nt!KiTimerExpiration+64a

    BUCKET_ID: 0xA_W_nt!KiTimerExpiration+64a

    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------

    eax=81cf483c ebx=00000002 ecx=0000025c edx=81d293dc esi=81cf4820 edi=04cb1dd8
    eip=81c8fc44 esp=82658e14 ebp=82658e2c iopl=0 nv up ei ng nz na pe nc
    cs=0008 ss=0010 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0030 gs=0000 efl=00000286
    nt!KiTrap0E+0x2ac:
    81c8fc44 833d648dd28100 cmp dword ptr [nt!KiFreezeFlag (81d28d64)],0 ds:0023:81d28d64=????????
    ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child
    82658e2c 81ca9b83 badb0d00 00000001 00000000 nt!KiTrap0E+0x2ac (FPO: [0,0] TrapFrame @ 82658e2c)
    82658f88 81ca9321 00000000 00000000 00017ec3 nt!KiTimerExpiration+0x64a
    82658ff4 81c90d8d 9613f7e4 00000000 00000000 nt!KiRetireDpcList+0xba
    82658ff8 9613f7e4 00000000 00000000 00000000 nt!KiDispatchInterrupt+0x3d (FPO: [Uses EBP] [0,0,1])
    WARNING: Frame IP not in any known module. Following frames may be wrong.
    81c90d8d 00000000 0000001a 00c1850f bb830000 0x9613f7e4
    start end module name
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    What keeps me guessing is the waol.exe noted in the log, we all know how "rock solid" their stuff is...on Vista startup, it always loads several files into the RAM and stays in the Taskbar regardless if I use it or not.
    I removed it from Autostarting and will not use and load it for now, looking if that maybe already fixes it.
    But thats just my guessing...
    Thanks for any other Tips!
     
  2. 2007/05/31
    mattman

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    Hi and welcome to the BBS,

    I would start by looking for Vista updates for the AOL program.

    Matt
     

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  4. 2007/06/01
    Soundwave1983

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    Hi Matt, thanks for the welcome. :D

    Yeah I have checked for updates for the AOL Suite and found out that I am currently using the most up to date Version of it.
    I will try to get in touch with their tech support and give them a holla about it.
     
  5. 2007/06/01
    mattman

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    Sorry to state the obvious, which I see now is why you highlighted it :D .

    Have you updated your main drivers? I have an Abit A9N-SLI and although the drivers Vista installed worked, the graphics did not seem to be 100% and there was no sound. (Maybe your system came supplied with Vista drivers, mine didn't)

    I suggest you get the chipset drivers from Abit. Look on the XFX website for Vista drivers, otherwise get them from nVidia. Get Vista audio drivers from Realtek.

    Maybe after updating those, AOL may be able to function a little better.

    I can help you find the drivers if needed.
    :) http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/down...REEN=Fatal1ty+AN9+32X&pSOCKET_TYPE=Socket AM2
    I see Vista drivers for the Realtek audio are now listed at Abit.

    Matt
     
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    Soundwave1983

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    Yes, I always download the very latest certified drivers and burn them on a CDRW before building a new system, same case here.
    The CDs coming with the products usually contain old and outdated stuff.

    I believe its just more or less sloppy coding on AOLs side, their clients were never known to be robust anyway.
     
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    mattman

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    Good method with drivers :)
    and...I hope it goes well with AOL.

    AOL? What does it interact with? It seems to be requesting the loading of drivers?

    If you are stuck, try booting into Safe Mode and uninstalling AOL. Check if there are any updates for the installation program before installing it again. If there are no "Vista" installations, try running the installation in compatibility mode or running it as administrator.

    Matt
     
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    Soundwave1983

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    Yeah, they released a refresh of their Vista Ready 9.0 suite which I installed immediately, works okay so far...hopely it fixed the issues.

    A lot, on startup it loads like 3-4 files into RAM of which 2 are taskbar processes and 2 are services running the the background.
    It also does something with the network and such, so it kinda digs deeper into the system than you would usually expect which of course makes it an easy victim for causing BSODs if its not coded and tested well enough.
     
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    Soundwave1983

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    And another one...

    I just ran into another BSOD, this time it happened after I logged into Windows right after Bootup was complete.
    Here is the Log:

    Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.7.0005.0
    Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


    Loading Dump File [C:\Mini060407-01.dmp]
    Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available

    Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
    Executable search path is: C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows\system32\drivers
    Windows Vista Kernel Version 6000 MP (2 procs) Free x86 compatible
    Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
    Built by: 6000.16386.x86fre.vista_rtm.061101-2205
    Kernel base = 0x81c00000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0x81d11db0
    Debug session time: Mon Jun 4 23:10:51.815 2007 (GMT+2)
    System Uptime: 0 days 0:00:33.549
    Loading Kernel Symbols
    .........................................................................................................................................
    Loading User Symbols
    Loading unloaded module list
    ....
    *******************************************************************************
    * *
    * Bugcheck Analysis *
    * *
    *******************************************************************************

    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

    BugCheck A, {1152190e, ff, 1, 81ca92d5}

    Probably caused by : hardware ( nt!KiRetireDpcList+6e )

    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------

    0: kd> !analyze -v;r;kv;lmtn;.logclose;q
    *******************************************************************************
    * *
    * Bugcheck Analysis *
    * *
    *******************************************************************************

    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (a)
    An attempt was made to access a pageable (or completely invalid) address at an
    interrupt request level (IRQL) that is too high. This is usually
    caused by drivers using improper addresses.
    If a kernel debugger is available get the stack backtrace.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: 1152190e, memory referenced
    Arg2: 000000ff, IRQL
    Arg3: 00000001, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation
    Arg4: 81ca92d5, address which referenced memory

    Debugging Details:
    ------------------


    WRITE_ADDRESS: GetPointerFromAddress: unable to read from 81d315ac
    Unable to read MiSystemVaType memory at 81d11780
    1152190e

    CURRENT_IRQL: 2

    FAULTING_IP:
    nt!KiRetireDpcList+6e
    81ca92d5 ff8b44242489 dec dword ptr [ebx-76DBDBBCh]

    CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT

    BUGCHECK_STR: 0xA

    PROCESS_NAME: Idle

    TRAP_FRAME: 81cf1c8c -- (.trap 0xffffffff81cf1c8c)
    .trap 0xffffffff81cf1c8c
    ErrCode = 00000002
    eax=00000018 ebx=882df4ca ecx=81cf8300 edx=00000018 esi=00001471 edi=81cf4820
    eip=81ca92d5 esp=81cf1d00 ebp=81cf1d50 iopl=0 nv up di pl zr na pe nc
    cs=0008 ss=0010 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0030 gs=0000 efl=00010046
    nt!KiRetireDpcList+0x6e:
    81ca92d5 ff8b44242489 dec dword ptr [ebx-76DBDBBCh] ds:0023:1152190e=????????
    .trap
    Resetting default scope

    MISALIGNED_IP:
    nt!KiRetireDpcList+6e
    81ca92d5 ff8b44242489 dec dword ptr [ebx-76DBDBBCh]

    LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 81ca92d5 to 81c8fc44

    STACK_TEXT:
    81cf1c8c 81ca92d5 badb0d00 00000018 81cf1c02 nt!KiTrap0E+0x2ac
    81cf1d50 81c912ae 00000000 0000000e 00000000 nt!KiRetireDpcList+0x6e
    81cf1d54 00000000 0000000e 00000000 00000000 nt!KiIdleLoop+0x46


    STACK_COMMAND: kb

    FOLLOWUP_IP:
    nt!KiRetireDpcList+6e
    81ca92d5 ff8b44242489 dec dword ptr [ebx-76DBDBBCh]

    SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 1

    SYMBOL_NAME: nt!KiRetireDpcList+6e

    FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

    IMAGE_NAME: hardware

    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 0

    MODULE_NAME: hardware

    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: IP_MISALIGNED

    BUCKET_ID: IP_MISALIGNED

    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------

    eax=81cf483c ebx=000000ff ecx=000000e0 edx=81d293dc esi=81cf4820 edi=1152190e
    eip=81c8fc44 esp=81cf1c74 ebp=81cf1c8c iopl=0 nv up ei ng nz na pe nc
    cs=0008 ss=0010 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0030 gs=0000 efl=00000286
    nt!KiTrap0E+0x2ac:
    81c8fc44 833d648dd28100 cmp dword ptr [nt!KiFreezeFlag (81d28d64)],0 ds:0023:81d28d64=????????
    ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child
    81cf1c8c 81ca92d5 badb0d00 00000018 81cf1c02 nt!KiTrap0E+0x2ac (FPO: [0,0] TrapFrame @ 81cf1c8c)
    81cf1d50 81c912ae 00000000 0000000e 00000000 nt!KiRetireDpcList+0x6e
    81cf1d54 00000000 0000000e 00000000 00000000 nt!KiIdleLoop+0x46 (FPO: [0,0,0])
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    Unloaded modules:
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    Timestamp: unavailable (00000000)
    Checksum: 00000000
    8a892000 8a89f000 crashdmp.sys
    Timestamp: unavailable (00000000)
    Checksum: 00000000
    8a888000 8a892000 dump_storpor
    Timestamp: unavailable (00000000)
    Checksum: 00000000
    8a86e000 8a888000 dump_nvstor3
    Timestamp: unavailable (00000000)
    Checksum: 00000000
    Closing open log file c:\debuglog.txt
     
  10. 2007/06/05
    peterdiva

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    Both those dumps are pointing to a hardware problem.

    As Memtest isn't perfect, try running with just one stick of RAM. If it still crashes, or after a period of time where it doesn't crash then run the other stick by itself.
     
  11. 2007/06/05
    Soundwave1983

    Soundwave1983 Inactive Thread Starter

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    It looks like I have found the problem and solved it.
    Sounds kinda ridiculous...but the ram was running with Voltage too LOW the whole time.

    Its Crucial Ballistix RAM and specced to run at 2.0-2.2 Volts with 4-4-4-12 timings, my Mainboard for whatever reason always fed it 1.8 Volts only.
    I wondered from the start why it locked up on these timings so I set the BIOS to "by SPD" settings and it used 5-5-5-15 (which is there for compatiblity reasons only).
    Looks like it was enough for the (already too high) 5-5-5-15 Timings in most cases, but sometimes still led to a blackout charging a BSOD.

    So now, I upped the voltage to 2.0 Volts, set the 4-4-4-12 timings and just got done with playing over an hour of Stalker, which is one of the most hardware demanding games available to date.
    Ill do some more testing the next few days but I am pretty confident that this was the achilles heel.
    Never thought id run into an unstable system because its UNDERvolted. :eek: :D
     
  12. 2007/06/06
    mattman

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    Hey, well done Soundwave. From my understanding, RAM and CPU voltages work the opposite to what you might expect. If you want to push it harder, lower the voltage and visa versa. Do some investigation at the overclocker's websites if you are interested.

    Again, well done and thanks for letting us know :)

    Matt
     
  13. 2007/06/06
    Soundwave1983

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    Thats exactly what I thought too Matt.
    However...the way it looks like these Modules (which use Micron Chips) belong to those that actually require quite some juice to work properly, the Micron PDF Datasheet even recommends running them at 2.1 or 2.2 Volts as default voltage.

    Ill keep you informed how things will work out. ;)
     
  14. 2007/06/07
    mattman

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    Soundwave, you may have read too quickly...
    If you want to ease off on the "speed ", increase the voltage.

    I think you will find it works the opposite way to what you might expect. Giving it "juice" (increasing the voltage) will be more failsafe.

    Have a look around the OC forums.

    Matt
    Edit: History...voltages for RAM and CPU are coming down, voltages for older hardware used to be a lot higher than they are now.
     
    Last edited: 2007/06/07
  15. 2007/06/07
    Soundwave1983

    Soundwave1983 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Oh I understood you perfectly Matt. :)
    The "problem" with these 2 sticks of RAM is though, that they actually require higher voltage to operate overall and in overclocked speeds.

    DDR2 normal voltage is 1.8 Volts, these sticks are supposed to be running at 2.0-2.2 by default, if you want to overclock them, (they are specced for DDR 1000 maximum) the magazines doing so upped voltages up to whopping 2.4 Volts to get them stable.

    So as you can see, there in some cases are still exceptions to the general trend hardware is following.
    As for me, I am just happy they run stable and well in DDR800. :)
     

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