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Get Mail button in FF2.x not working

Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by Westside, 2007/05/15.

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    Westside

    Westside Inactive Alumni Thread Starter

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    This is not so simple, so I will try to explain how the Get Mail button/link in FF2.0.0.3 is no longer working to "Read Mail ", although "New Message" worked.
    It ,all, started when I wanted to open the default TB2.0 with its own profile. It, regularly, opened the 1.5 profile, although it indicated that it was using 2.0 (from About Thunderbird). I am using different themes for the two TBs, different profiles, etc. I contacted the developer who said that the addon did not support the -p switch, but that I would be ok after uninstalling TB1.5.0.10. Not so. I have experienced total non-reaction to clicking on Read Mail. Reinstalling 1.5.x did not help.
    To make a long story short, if someone has the above problem, I understand that it can happen. A further e-mail to the developer has yet to produce a reply.
    Dragging and dropping the desktop shortcut to the Taskbar works perfectly, opening the correct TB profile.
    I believe that this was the original solution to the absence of the Get Mail button.
     
  2. 2007/05/15
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    I had the same problem until I set the proper path to thunderbird.exe in GetMailPlus's Options.

    GetMailPlus seems to me like a solution in search of a problem, especially if the user keeps his/her email program open all the time, as I do.

    The only really useful feature (that I can see) is that it allows the user to open email Compose windows, save drafts, and send completed messages, even if the default email program is closed.
     

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  4. 2007/05/16
    Westside

    Westside Inactive Alumni Thread Starter

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    I tried Get Mail Plus, and entered various paths, just to see if it recognize any. It did not. But, I don't see any usefulness for the addon, except as you described.
     
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    Westside

    Westside Inactive Alumni Thread Starter

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    I think that I understand the problem, but why?
    I got Read Mail to go with GetMailPlus in Netscape9b1 of all things, but it recalls the profile formerly used by the uninstalled TB1.5, instead of that which I use for TB2.0. This happens when I open a link, to and from TB/FF. The process seems to like to open only with a specific profile. I always access my program using the profile switch.
    At this point, I am not sure what to do, as the response I get when I move the 1.5 folder out of the Thunderbird folder is: "Thunderbird is already running, but not responding. Fine, but why is there no thunderbird.exe in the Task Manager.
    In summary, it is not only the GetMail addon.
    The good news is that the addon is compatible with NS9b1, although it opens the 1.5 folder, which I had not used since May 15, when I uninstalled TB1.5.10.
     
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    Westside,

    The error message occurs when the Profile can't be found. For some reason TB isn't seeing the Profile location. This page explains in detail: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_in_us
    This could be why TB is grabbing the 1.5 profile.
     
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    Westside

    Westside Inactive Alumni Thread Starter

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    I don't understand why. Here is my TB profile.ini:

    [General]
    StartWithLastProfile=1

    [Profile0]
    Name=7generic
    IsRelative=1
    Path=Profiles/xs2okn3h.7generic

    [Profile1]
    Name=TB1.5
    IsRelative=1
    Path=Profiles/xxxxxxx.TB1.5
    Default=1

    [Profile2]
    Name=nightly
    IsRelative=1
    Path=Profiles/t7gof0jp.nightly

    [Profile3]
    Name=TB2.0
    IsRelative=1
    Path=Profiles/xxxxxxx.TB2.0

    TB2.0 is the profile I want to use. However, it uses TB1.5.

    Same with FF, where I want to use profile 1.0.x.

    [General]
    StartWithLastProfile=1

    [Profile0]
    Name=Firefox1.5
    IsRelative=1
    Path=Profiles/xxxxx.Firefox1.5
    Default=1

    [Profile1]
    Name=Nightly
    IsRelative=1
    Path=Profiles/o6vauio6.Nightly

    [Profile2]
    Name=Firefox1.0x
    IsRelative=1
    Path=Profiles/xxxxx.Firefox1.0x

    [Profile3]
    Name=Firefox1.0.8
    IsRelative=1
    Path=Profiles/qhzp7inh.Firefox1.0.8

    [Profile4]
    Name=FF3.0
    IsRelative=1
    Path=Profiles/jz6ofjpi.FF3.0

    How would I change the Default? The link to mozillazine gave me nothing.
     
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    Westside

    Westside Inactive Alumni Thread Starter

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    Just done. I cut the Default line from under 1.5, and pasted below the 2.0.
    Nothing happens other that thunderbird.exe in the Task Manager.
    However, I restored the line to the original, and, sure enough the 1.5 profile will open. I am ready to give up.
     
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    Just a thought....:rolleyes:
    In that both versions use the same Profile.ini file

    I think it may depend on the:
    StartWithLastProfile=
    setting.

    0=ask
    1=don't ask.

    if you select "don't ask" = 1 then you are not asked and the:
    "Default=1" appears under the last profile used.
    Looks to me like the "1" in "Default=1" may be a True or False thing rather that a referal to a profile #

    but that is just a thought

    regards:captjlddavis
     
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    Westside

    Westside Inactive Alumni Thread Starter

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    Capt,
    you are completely right, although I would rather not have to do it. I edited profile.ini to make StartWithLastProfile=0. That brings up the profile manager.
    however, selecting to not ask at startup does the trick. Thank you.
     
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    captjlddavis

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    Glad it was of some help.

    But doesn't "not ask at startup" then start with the last profile used, regardless of which version was last used ?

    gets very confussing when more that one version is installed/used

    regards:captjlddavis
     
  12. 2007/06/08
    Westside

    Westside Inactive Alumni Thread Starter

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    I, stilll, don't understand the profile.ini. How did the 1.5 profiles (both Firefox and Thunderbird) become default, in first place? And, why is there no simple way to change it? I took another look at the file, and found out that my editing of StartWithLastProfile=from 1 to 0 had reverted back to 1. The Default=1 line is gone.
    So, presumably, if I have more than one profile, and I use more than one, the next time the same profile will open. May be I can delete the other profiles, without removing the files, and, then move them to a backup location.
    This way I will be left with a single profile in the profile.ini file.
    Now, it explains why I was opening a different profile from links, than the one I had selected with the profile switch. This had been driving me crazy, as my wife was using the keyboard to access the internet and e-mail. I did not remember programming the keyboard, but it seems that it was opening whichever profile was default. Now, of course, the feature does not work, much to the consternation of my wife.
    Now, if one could get the Default=1 back, intentionally, after having been stuck with it all this time!
     
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    captjlddavis

    captjlddavis Well-Known Member

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    Fulvio,
    Like I said "very confusinig "

    as to the "Default=1" it is an on/off setting. and will be placed in the profile that was Last used.
    Note that the "StartWithLastProfile=" is also a 0 or 1 ( should be "boolean" true or false) but Mozilla often uses the 0/1 format.

    If you have " ask" set then the "Default=1" setting is vertually ignored when you start PM. A lot of the confusing is caused by the use of "Default ". I NEVER HAVE A PROFILE NAMED "DEFAULT ".

    The "Default=1" when you have "ask" (0) set is just a place holder for Profile Manager - to Highlight the last profile used when PM is started. (remove the line from the PM and start TB) note that NO profile is highlighted.

    It works just as it is designed to. Unfortunately when you have multiple version and profiles things don't do what we want them to.

    I don't know if this helps any, but this is how I see it.

    regards:captjlddavis
     
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    If you have more than one profile, and if those profile folders are in the default location (C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\), clicking on a particular profile's shortcut icon will cause FF to open the Profile Manager. Selecting that profile and opening FF will cause that profile to become the default. In other words, the last profile opened with the Profile Manager (which reads and writes to profiles.ini) becomes the default profile (Default=1).

    The Profile Manager will NOT open and the profile will NOT become the default (unless it is already) if the profile folder is in a location other than the default, and the shortcut icon's Target line shows -p profilename.

    TB works exactly the same way.

    I don't think it really matters which profile is the default if you have more than one, and if their folders are in the default location, because the Profile Manager will open each time, anyway. One way to work with multiple profiles is to use the MOZ_NO_REMOTE environment variable.

    HTH.
     
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    captjlddavis

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    JSSR,
    Things are getting pretty confusing here (to me anyway).

    I don't think location of the profile has any bearing on it.
    The "Default=1" setting ONLY only works if you select "don't ask" in PM.

    Will this (setting Profile.ini to RO) then have NO effect when you switch to another VERSION of the same program.(in as much as they use the same Profile.ini) If you use shortcut properties it is moot.

    Just my observations and I could be wrong.

    regards:captjlddavis
     
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    Westside

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    I have always used the profile switch, so there no problem in opening from the shortcut, as the profile switch is entered in the shortcut Target.
    All my Firefox and Thunderbird profiles are in the default location.
    I have only FF2.0.0.4 and TB2.0.0.0 installed, and, I have been using, intentionally, only the profiles created for those versions. But, for some reason the 1.5 profiles were default. And, they, regularly, opened the 1.5 profile from links, or from the keyboard (buttons on it). I had never even thought of the profile.ini file, until the capt. brought it to my attention.
    So, here I have no default, which is ok, as long as I am not tempted to use any of the other profiles, at which point, may be the other profile will keep opening.
    I have no idea how 1.5 made itself default in both FF and TB, but I can't get to use the keyboard buttons. So, to open these buttons I should open the PM, uncheck the box to use the profile, and, maybe the 2.0 profiles will become default, as everything else is set to=1.
    Maybe you understand what I am driving to. If not, it does not matter.
     
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    captjlddavis

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    I have no idea what goes on with "keyboard" buttons.....

    Not being able to see YOUR actual setup makes it very difficult to try and troubleshoot. Any further suggestions would only be a "guess" and be of no value.

    sorry that I can't contribute anything further.

    good luck

    regards:captjlddavis
     
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    Westside

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    I should have waited, but it worked. I uncheck the box to open that specific profile, and the Default=1 went with it. I am still used to the profile switch, and, I will reintroduce it, but it is not necessary.
    As for the keyboard, I don't have any idea how it is set up, but it goes with the Default profile.
     
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    Glad you got a satisfactory solution to your situation.

    regards:captjlddavis
     
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    Westside

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    Semi-satisfactory. The button for e-mail on the keyboard is not doing anything, but, now, the TB2.0 profile is default. Hopefully, I will not have to go to the Task Manager to close hanging thunderbird.exe items. This was never a problem with Firefox, but Thunderbird tended to leave running tb.exe, at least once each day.
    Snd, thank you. I would have never even looked at the profile.ini file as a possible source of my problems.
     

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