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How Much Ram

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by hawk22, 2007/05/09.

  1. 2007/05/09
    hawk22

    hawk22 Geek Member Thread Starter

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    As an example my Gigabyte GA-7V600L Motherboard has 3 Ram slots and the specs state 3 GIG Max Ram, in the Manual it reads that it is compatible with DDR Ram 128 - 256 - 512 MB it does not say 1 GIG Ram Modules. This means my max is 1.5 and not 3GIG I would like to bring it up to 2 GIG.
    Anyone able to shed some light onto this.
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  2. 2007/05/09
    PeteC

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    Simplest way - log onto www.crucial.com and work through their memory selector. All RAM shown will be compatible with your mobo and there should be a sidenote re. no. of slots/modules.
     
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    to my understanding, not refering 1G RAM doesn't mean it isn't compatible with 1G RAM:p
     
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  5. 2007/05/09
    hawk22

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    Good News, thanks Crucial tells me 1 Gig is compatible with this board.
    very good link Pete, thanks.
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    I don't doubt that your board does support 1 gigs sticks, but If the original manual that came with it says 512 then you may need to flash your bios to a newer one, I have heard sometimes you need to for an older board to supprt more RAM. Just a thought if you run into a probs once you get it.
     
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  7. 2007/05/09
    TonyT

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    Your board may or may not support 3GB RAM, depending upon the version of that mb. They made several versions of the GA-7VT600-L but according to their site, there does not appear to be a GA-7V600-L. Did you omit the letter "T" in the mb name?
    http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Search/Search.aspx?ClassID=2
     
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  8. 2007/05/10
    hawk22

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    I am very sorry, yes I did omit the letter "T" it actually is a GA-7VT600 1394.:eek: :eek:
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  9. 2007/05/10
    TonyT

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    Specification
    Processor

    1. Socket A for AMD Athlonâ„¢ XP / Athlonâ„¢ /Duronâ„¢ processor

    Chipset

    1. Northbridge : VIA KT600
    2. Southbridge : VIA 8237
    3. Integrated peripherals
    1. VIA VT6306 IEEE1394 controller
    2. Realtek Ethernet 10/100Mb LAN chip
    3. Realtek ALC655 AC97 codec Chip

    Front Side Bus

    1. 400/333/266/200 MHz FSB

    Memory

    1. Type : DDR400(PC3200)/ DDR333 (PC2700) / DDR266 (PC2100) -184pin
    2. Max capacity : 3GB
    3. DIMM slots: 3

    Internal I/O Connectors

    1. 1 x FDD port
    2. 2 x UDMA ATA133/100/66 Bus Master IDE ports
    3. 2 x IEEE 1394 connectors(support 3 ports)
    4. 2 x USB 2.0 connectors (support 4 ports)
    5. 1 x GAME/ MIDI connector
    6. 2 x Serial ATA connectors

    Expansion Slots

    1. 1 x AGP slot (8X/4X-AGP 3.0 compliant)
    2. 5 x PCI slots (PCI 2.2 compliant)

    Rear Panel I/O

    1. PS/2 Keyboard / Mouse
    2. 4 x USB 2.0 ports
    3. 2 x COM ports
    4. 1 x RJ45 LAN port
    5. Audio (1 x Line-in / 1 x Line-out / 1 x Mic) port
    6. 1 x LPT

    Form Factor

    1. ATX, Dimension : ( 30.5 x 24.4 cm )

    H/W Monitoring

    1. System health status auto-detect and report by BIOS
    2. H/W detect and report for power-in voltage, CPU voltage, and Fan Speed
    3. Support auto temperature detect and thermal shutdown function

    BIOS

    1. 2 x 4Mbit flash ROM, Award BIOS

    Other Features

    1. DualBIOS
    2. Xpress Install
    3. Xpress Recovery (Support by Driver CD)
    4. EasyTune4
    5. @BIOS
    6. Q-Flash
     
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  10. 2007/05/10
    visionof

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    With Ram there more is not always better.
    With any computer system you cross a certain threshold and then performance does not stay the same - it plummets like a rock.
    However this seldom becomes an issue at the time the computer is current due to financial costs. It is usually cost prohibitive at the time to be able to get to the that given threshold.
    Within reasonable ram limits for a system more is usually better but up to a point.
     
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    Ask GIGABYTE
    It can give you the best suggest.
     
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  12. 2007/05/11
    TonyT

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    It's not the computer system that causes this, it's the operating system. It was true that Windows 98 and even Windows ME topped out at a certain amount of RAM, but Windows 2000 didn't and XP will use all the RAM that's available with no hit in performance. Linux also will utilize all the RAM available. Rule of thumb today is "more RAM is better always ".
     
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  13. 2007/05/11
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  14. 2007/05/12
    Rockster2U

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    I believe there are a few questions that perhaps someone with a little more knowledge can shed some light on. It is my understanding that XP doesn't recognize more than 3gigs of RAM - I've never tested this but there is plenty of information available about this apparent limitation. The system BIOS will recognize more than three, but XP won't. With NVidia chipsets, two sticks of memory (in dual channel mode) can run at T1 timings but with four sticks, a system will revert to T2 timings. Some boards will also drop PC3200 (400 MHz) to PC2700 (333MHz) with more than two sticks present.

    ;)
     
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    TonyT

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    Keep in mind that when references use the term "memory" they usually are not referring to RAM. There's a difference between memory & RAM. RAM is usually referred to as "physical memory ".
    http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEmem.mspx
    http://www.crucial.com/kb/answer.asp?qid=3743
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889654

    Using PAE more RAM can be utilized:
    http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEdrv.mspx

    4 GB is the max for XP Pro 32bit w/out tweaking other system files and performance settings. But having memory above the 4 GB threshold won't slow down the system at all, at least if there is any performance hit due to motherboard functions it won't be noticable to the human eye.

    Most server operating systems (current) can use up to 64 GB RAM (windows & linux).
     
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  16. 2007/05/12
    Rockster2U

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    Like I said, "perhaps someone with a little more knowledge can shed some light "

    Thanks Tony - I've done a quick read of all links and will check these out in more detail later. Had not a clue about PAE.

    ;)
     
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  17. 2007/05/12
    visionof

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    It is not a question of physical or software limits to the amount of ram.
    There seems to be a misconception and confusion at this point.
    It is true that pre -XP Windows could not ( or use effectively) ram of 512 mb.
    For the most part it was wasted.
    But that was seldom an issue in any practical sense with the pricing or Ram at that time.
    I have physically observed with older computers ( it was and amd 350 equivalent to a lower end P2) that over a certain amount of ram even thought the ram was recognized performance plummeted .
    Recently I heard some tech experts pointing out that some people who were now going to 2 gig memory were in a lot of cases having reduced not better performace.
    As a general rule - more ram is better . However as said at a certain top end performance may actually drop rapidly rather than even stay the same.
    In cases this point is never reaching due to the practicalities of pricing of ram at that given time point.
    There is a good analogy about never having too much ram but for good taste I will not state it here.
     
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  18. 2007/05/19
    Rockster2U

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    Hawk

    Your mailbox is full. This is in response to a PM question asked regarding Overclocking Hawk's Motherboard.

    Just did some quick reading and am passing along a couple of links. http://www.overclockers.co.nz/ocnz/review.php?id=03boardkt600000gigabytekt6013940105 and http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=23&threadid=51411.

    This doesn't bode well for Overclocking your 2600+ Barton and apparently your best bet is going to be running it at stock speed. If I were in your shoes, I'd look for an ABIT NF7S Revision2 or a DFI LanParty Ultra II which will run that puppy at 12x200 without breaking a sweat. You will have trouble finding either of these boards but they are available. I've read enough to classify your Gigabyte as a nice board that isn't going to overclock that Barton without some major issues.

    Regards,
    ;)
     
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  19. 2007/05/20
    hawk22

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    Hi Rock, Thanks a lot for that, good reading there, was reading through all the Forums a bit of a worry with all that bad reports. Funny though the one guy who claims PC 333 is best for this board, I have read that on a AMD -or Gigabyte site and that was the reason that I got 333 Ram for this board.
    So I will set it up stock standard and hope for the best.
    There are a couple of other things that I am not too sure about but I post them when I get to it.
    thanks
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