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  1. 2007/03/29
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    Pressed L - Windows got about 11% through and the sysem reboot
     
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  2. 2007/03/29
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    About a year or so ago I bought a single 80gig PATA WD HD that I never got around to using and was still sitting in the static bag.

    Out of desperation I tried the install with this drive. I did get a little bit farther this time and could actually see the Windows logo and graphics. Then when I started to go with the rest of the set up protocol (again within the Windows graphics - not DOS stuff) I still get the system restarts.

    I'm beginning to wonder is it was ever really the fault of the original motherboard, or SATA drives or original hard-drive.

    Memory? - It's basic Corsair Value Select
    Power Supply? It's a good quality unit
    CD?

    I mean really, it's got to be something, but who know what....
     
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  4. 2007/03/30
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    I think you can eliminate the motherboard and hard drive from the equation and concentrate on the other components.

    First run a check on the memory using memtest or Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool - both will run at boot from either a floppy or CD. You have obviously removed and reseated the memory modules in changing the motherboard, but a check that they are properly seated would not hurt.

    The power supply should be adequate and can only be easily checked by substitution.

    Likewise the DVD-ROM can really only be checked out by substitution or proving it on another machine.

    If al of this fails to resolve the problem a finger must point to the CPU.

    Assuming that the CD is genuine and not a copy - and not an OEM allied to a specific computer manufacturer the only real way of checking that out is to try it on another computer.

    If push comes to shove - and it seems that that situation is too close for comfort :) unhitch the drive in another computer and hitch up the PATA drive and see if you can install Windows from that CD.
     
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  5. 2007/03/30
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    I'm gonna check Newegg today and see what I can and can't RMA.

    One thing I never mentioned was a previous "problem" with this power supply. I use quotes because I didn't think it was a problem, but now I'm beginning to wonder.

    The unit is a PCP&C 360 Silencer which I originally purchased with a Gigabyte AGP 7600gs for an older 478 system in my apartment (the new machine is currently at my mothers place). Well, when I put the new PSU and new Vid Card in the old machine I was constantly gettting restarts, but only under graphics load, for instance, Doom would almost automatically cause a restart, while less intensive stuff would take awhile.

    I called PCP&C directly and they were convinced it was not a power supply issue and that the power provided by the unit would be adequate to a single processor, single gpu system with a couple drive, etc... They would not take it back as it was past 30 days.

    So, I figured 'why not' and went to CompuUSA and bought the Antec 650 'something' (I forget the code name). Well, the old AGP computer has been working fine ever since.

    Now, I have the PCP&C 360 in this new machine and the voltages seem okay, but I have to admit, I'm starting to wonder.....maybe it is a dud.

    Memory checks are tough since I don't have access to any other DDR2 based systems.

    DVD causing reboots? I guess, but it doesn't seem probable, though I don't rule it out.

    I agree, I'm pretty much ruling out Motherboard and Hard Drive.

    CPU - maybe, but I'm thinking a stone dead sytsem would be the result of a bad CPU. Though, again, I'm not ruling it out completely.

    I remember building my Intel 478 AGP machine with a buddy years ago. It was NOTHING like this, done in under a day and still running today.
     
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  6. 2007/03/30
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    From your previous experience and chequered history of the PSU it has to be the prime suspect.

    I am no electrician, but the voltages may not be stable under load. If you have measured them I guess it is under a no load situation.

    If you feel inclined 'borrow' the Antec out of your machine and try it in the new build.
     
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    Surely you don't need one? - just boot from the floppy or CD containing the test program. The test is run in DrDOS AFAIK and recall - Windows does not enter the equation.
     
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    Definitely, and you are right, it was measured under stable load, both with the new and old PC.

    If it is the case, PCP&C will be getting a special delivery and a rather stern letter of complaint:mad:
     
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  9. 2007/03/30
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    I've never heard of DrDOS AFAIK, but yeah, I guess I could give it a shot via download to floppy.
     
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  10. 2007/03/30
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    It was the power supply!!!

    I purchased a new Antec Power Supply (430 watts) from the local Best Buy and sure enough, we're now up and running. Windows is installed completely, but not yet activated.

    I'm pretty sure the Silencer 360 from PCP&C is a dud. But for fairness sake, let me ask. Does a 20 pin power adapter REQUIRE a 20 to 24 pin adapter to work in a 24 pin board? My thinking has been no, but figured I'd ask before declaring the unit as bad. Maybe I only need said adapter to make this unit work.

    If this is NOT a requirement I'm sending the thing back to PCP&C since it should have been more than enough for this board.

    Now back to activation. I have the PC hooked to a working broadband connection via ethernet to a wired hub and I'm positive the connnection is solid as I've tried it successfully with another computer. Windows now keeps telling me it can't find an Internet connection. Any ideas?

    If it's not one thing, it's another... But at least I'm making progress:)
     
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    Having looked at the manual for my board and for the one you replaced I would say that a 24 pin power connector is needed for correct operation, but don't take this as a definitive answer :) hopefully one of the other hardware guys will come in here.
    No rush to Activate, but can you connect the computer to the internet with IE? I have no experience of using ethernet to connect to the internet - USB is the commonplace method over here.
     
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  12. 2007/04/07
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    I'm haveing a similar problem with my 7600 gs card. keeps rebooting or locking up completely. the computer is in use atm so I can't actually work on it. was trying to get info.

    my mobo is agp 4x and my card is 8x. Not sure if it matters. May not be getting enough power but I have installed the additional power supply.

    Only seems to happen when I try to game.
     
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  13. 2007/04/08
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    With the newer boards you should use a power supply that has the 24-pin plug. Using an adapter can cause the board not to function correctly.
     
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  14. 2007/04/10
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    just an update. I removed drivers (graphic) and rebooted with loading just basic drivers, then rebooted a 2nd time, then loaded nvidea drivers from disk supplied. As of now no issues and running fine.
     
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