Will a FC-PGA2 Processor work in a Slot 1 Converter

I recently bought a cheap cel. 1.2GHz CPU but I didn't realise that my mobo only supports FC-PGA and not FC-PGA2. Can I buy a Socket 370 to Slot 1 converter to allow this CPU to work? Or is the only option a new motherboard?

Thanks for any help.

Steekie

 

It's my understanding that all Celerons were released in the Socket 370 Format. The only processors to be released in Slot 1 were PIIs and Some of the earliers PIIIs.

Do you have a Slot 1 motherboard?

The only essential difference between the two fc-pga formats is that fc-pga 2 has an intergrated heatsink to provide better heat dissipation.

If you have located a 370 to slot 1 convertor your chip will physically fit on your Mboard - assuming you have a slot 1 board.

However, you may find that your Slot 1 board doesn't support the voltage or multiplier settings for your FC-PGA2 to work properly. I know my Asus P2B Slot 1 board would only support processors rated to 800 Mhz regardless if they were slot 1 or I used a slot 370 to slot 1 convertor.

If you'r Mboard manual or the Manufacturer's website doesn't list it as supported it probably isn't. You may damage your Mboard or your new processor.

Bottom line....If your Mboard doesn't support the voltage, fsb and multiplier settings your processors requires it won't work regardless of how you interface it with the Mboard.

Additionally, upgrading to a board the supports your new processors may reap other benefits. . . better HD controller, more memory capacity, bigger HD capacity - giving you more options when you want upgrage your other components.

GaRy

 

iceolated - you've been pretty iceolated if you've never seen a slot 1 celeron - time for some new "understanding ".

 

Extremely Iceolated

My bad, forgot about those early celerons. (Slapping forhead repeatedly) Must have blocked those out Ha Ha Ha....

I've been painting a room in the basement for the past two days -apparently I need to increase the ventilation down there.

Thanks for the SKITA (Swift Kick In .......) I usually count on my wife for those, but varieity is the spice of life!!!

 

thanks for the help so far.

My mobo is slot 1 and socket 370. But I think iceolated may be slighty wrong. When I first tried the new cpu it didn't work so I sent it back to dabs.com (Where I bought it) and told them it was faulty, they then tested it and sent me it back with an engineers report saying the part worked and that I should check if my mobo was fc pga2 compatible.

Pretty much all I'm looking for is a way to get my new processor working since I can't afford a new mobo for about a month... or if anyone knows where to get cheap fc-pga2 mobo's in the UK then that'd be a great help.

Thanks again guys.

Steekie

 

Intel lists the only physical difference between the chips is the fc-pga2 as having a built in heat sink.

Do you know that your motherboard will support a 1.2 Ghz processor????

What's the brand and model of the board?

The more info you can give us the more likely we'll be able to help you out.



Gary

 

My mother board is a VIA 82C693A / 82C596B APOLLO Pro -133 Chipset Jetway 993AN with the latest bios. One of the updates in the new Bios is that it displays 1 GHz instead of 1000 MHz, so I know the Bios supports up to 1 gig.

If anyone wants to take a look at the full details they can be found here http://www.jetway.com.tw/evisn/product/slot1_370/bx133/bx133.htm

Thanks again for the help, and apoligies for doubting you

Steekie

BTW, I've noticed that some of the boards on the Jetway website advertise that they are FC-PGA2 compatible... but mine doesn't.

 

No apology necessary - I'm must handing out my opinion here - you have every right to doubt or question it!

What processor do you have on your board now?

I looked at your Mboard manual at section 2-5 for the multipliers (ratio) settings. I also went to Intel's website and looked up the corespeeds and multipliers for the celerons.

http://www.intel.com/support/processors/celeron/corespeeds.htm

The Celeron 1.2 has a 100 MHz Bus and therfore needs a multiplier(ratio) of 12 to generate the core speed.

At 100 Mhz with a Multiplier of 8.0 the fastest 100 MHz processor your board can support (in theory) is 800 MHz. Although, I don't see a listing for this in your manual.

At 133 Mhz with a Mutiplier of 7.5 you get 997.5 MHz (1 Gig). Again, in theory.

Can't find anything on Jetway's website to say what new processors the bios update supports. Like you said, it changes the 1000 MHz to 1.0G, but neither the manual or the website say what bus speed/multiplier ratio settings you need to reach that.

What settings did you use when you put your Celeron 1.2 on the board. What did you have your Bus and multiplier/ratio set at?

Since your board uses jumpers to set the multiplier ratio I don't see a setting that would allow your 1.2GHz Celeron to run stabily.

I think your only option fot that CPU may be a new board.


Suggestions from others - please?

Cheers,

Gary

 

Thanks again for all your help Iceolated.

I'm currently running a Cel. 633 Bus speed 66 Mhz. I know my mobo supports up to 133MHz bus speed (Or 150 if you want to over clock). If I remember correctly the last time I tried my new CPU, I set it to the 100 MHz bus speed, and according to my manual the ratio should be auto selected (Bottom of page 6) so I left this alone.

Do you even know if it's possible to underclock a CPU? I wouldn't mind even having my comp running at 800MHz or so.

Cheers

Steekie

 

I just got the following SHORT e-mail from Jetway...

Intel has change the Cpu voltage for the newer cpu.
This board will work with all CPU in the Copermine family.
The cpu you have is in the Tualatin Faminly.

I have e-mailed them back asking if I could use a S370 to Slot1 converter (I've heard some of these have a function to change the voltages). It looks like it'll be a new board for me, can you make any sugestions (Make sure they are cheap mobos ) and preferably without anything onboard.

Cheers Iceolated, if your ever in Belfast I'll buy you a pint

Steekie

 

iceolated - please - send me some of that paint - based on your last posts, it sounds like it has some phenominal mind enhancing characteristics. If you can't squeeze any paint through some twisted pairs, keep posting that knowledge. You're good.

 

sarcasm -?

 

No - I really meant it.

 

Steekie - Hope things work out for you. I am hesitant at suggesting parts for computers as there are so many options and each person's needs are so different.

I have had good luck with boards from ASUS, Gigabyte and Shuttle. I tend to stay away from FIC and PcChips. I went through 3 FIC boards in a row - all tested with faulty voltage regulators (so the company I bought them from said). I believe the model was the PA2013 ??. Turned out to be a lot of these in the first versions of the board. Still, I know other people with FIC boards who have no problems.

I recall trying to find drivers for a PcChips board once - took forever. The website was a disaster and took me all day to locate them.

Of course, this is strictly personal preferrence and the which motherboards are better discusssion is one that's never ending.

I hail from Scotland originally, but I never made it across the Irish Sea. A trip to back is long overdue - haven't been home in almost 11 years - who knows, maybe I'll have time to wander.

Rockster2U - Sorry, wasn't sure of the tone of your message intiially. The paint is that waterproofing UGL stuff. Stinks like crazy but blocks out the smell of my visiting mother-in-laws cremated culinary creations. I'm not sure which one is more hazardous to me!!

Cheers,

Gary

 

P.S. Thanks

 

Well Iceolated and Rockster, my brother is gonna lend me £100 so I should be etting my new mobo by next week Thanks for all you help Guys, and my offer stands if youse are ever in Belfast I'll buy you a nice cold pint of Guinness

Steekie