Confusion - Application Data Mozilla Profiles & location Seamonkey Profile in new XP

Hello Ramona and all,
I had another post going regarding files, but I now need a different type of information.

I have some files on a slave (Windows 98SE) which is not really functioning.
On this D:\ slave I have
D:\Windows\applicationdata\mozilla\profiles
Under Profiles I have the files that I have saved from Communicator 4.78 which is no longer on D:\ (As I stated in earlier post the computer crashed as the files were being transferred to my new XP.) I had previously backed up the application data file on D:\ as well.

The files in profile are gloriamt, gmt.bc, lindsaynt,and two others.
These are complete files with the ########.slt files

I copied the mozilla as above to a backup on C:\ and now don't know where they belong to the XP users.
According to netscape.com/mozilla Netscape 7 release notes
Windows XP has the profiles here - C:\Documents and Settings\,user name>\Application data\mozilla\profiles\<profile name>

I downloaded Sea Monkey and find that it is in
C:\programfiles\mozilla.org\seamonkey

I created profiles and it then asked where to find the profile. I can't find them! That XP profile address Documents and Settings, etc has nothing visible and it states on page 3 of www.mozilla.org/start/1.5/faq/profile.html#restore
"Document and Settings "directory is hidden twice;to access the directory, you may need to set Windows Explorer to show System and Hidden directories and files "


I downloaded Firefox browser and it seems to be working ok.

The netscape 7.2 which I had previously reloaded for access purposes (alternate to IE) is crashing every five minutes and I want to get it out, but as you can see I'm digging myself deeper into the quagmire.

At the moment I have no mail program at all. I don't want to try using internet explorer as all my business mail files, etc are in the backup mozilla folder I'm trying to recover.

I hope you can tell me what to do and where to put the mozilla profiles so they can be used outside of the backup path.

Once before, Ramona, you told me to go to the registry and remove everything that had Netscape in the name ....6, 7.2, etc
Do you think I should perhaps uninstall Netscape 7.2,,,,,,,,what of the remainder of communicator 4.76?,,,,the actual program is gone it seems.

Then perhaps I should delete the profiles just created in Sea Monkey, uninstall Sea Monkey and reinstall it clean without creating any profiles until you tell me where to find or place the files of profiles

This was the same kind of problem that I had before with Thunderbird email.
I could never seem to get the files from and to the right location. I haven't downloaded Thunderbird at all onto the new XP. I'm already "shell shocked ".

Thanks in advance for any help provided.
I don't have any email program to receive notifications now as I made Seamonkery the default...............I'll see if I can get netscape to load into the one profile that was there that was allowing me to receive mail. The last time I tried, it didn't have any mail clients anymore?!!

Gloria

 

SeaMonkey Program Files don't include the Profile. See this page for the Profile Location, plus a note on how to access Hidden Files/Folders:
http://home.att.net/~cherokee67/ns7profloc.html

Let's get SeaMonkey set up first, and then you will have a Mail program. Then you can take on the other programs one at a time. I'll be glad to walk you thru the process. I think perhaps you are trying to do too much at one time with unfamiliar programs.

It's up to you whether or not you want to start fresh. That would be my inclination considering the confusion you seem to have now.

 

Thank you Ramona,

I'm going to uninstall Sea Monkey and reinstall it. Then you can tell me how to set it up and get the identities set up. That way it will be clean start.

I agree between a new XP program with different locations and new browser/email it has become confusing. It wouldn't be so hard if I hadn't lost Communicator I think. I just seem to have orphan information.

I phoned my major cable supplier this morning as I couldn't get my mail in the netscape 7 hookup. (Of course, I realize that Communicator isn't in XP now)
I get mail from the webmail connection to them. They do not support netscape/mozilla!

Thanks
Gloria

 

Gloria,
Ramona's advice to start slowly was very good, since you have to put up with two variables. One is the program, i.e. Communicator vs.Seamonkey, the other the operating system. As you will see this excellent article by Ramona , WinXP hides the profile location (Seamonkey's profile has the same location as Netscape7.x and Mozilla.
It is not important right now, but the "profiles" are the same as the "users" of Communicator, except that they are much further apart. Another point to make is that Seamonkey is a "suite" like Netscape, i.e. it is browser+mail+more.
If all you care for is mail, since you have the standalone Firefox, you may be better off getting Thunderbird, which is mail only.
But, still, your problem will be in the fact that the profiles are hidden in WinXP. But, still, there should be no reason why you can't set up your Mail. In Seamonkey, you click on the envelope which is on the left, rather than the right of Communicator to get into mail. Then, you can bring up Edit|Mail and News Accounts, and the setup wizard. Please, refer to this article .
That will give you your current mail. We can think about the past mail, at a later date. Thunderbird has a similar set up, except that you approach it from Tools|Mail accounts.

 

Thank you!

It certainly helps to be able to see the folders and files!

Under Documents and Settings\Owner
I currently have
Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\gmt.bc
This would be correct as I only built one profile for Firefox
Also in the application data folder is a file Identities which just has a read me file in it.

Under Documents and Settings
There is a User Data Folder which has four folders (empty) with those names that are usually assigned to your profiles. ie 4RUHXY83
I don't know what they are or how they got there or if they are some internal working of the XP system.

Now that I can see the levels and folders it is beginning to make more sense.

I tend to get ahead of myself!
With Netscape 7 and Com 47.6 if I had to reload the profiles, I renamed the new creation with 1 or new etc , moved the old profile into the folder with it and then deleted the newly created profile and I was away to the races.

I was hoping to be able to do this sort of thing with the mozilla profiles that I have backed up on the computer now.

I guess that is the problem, as I said .. new technology old habits.


Should I now set up the 5 profiles again on Sea monkey? Honestly, I couldn't run several programs at once on the old computer as there was not enough RAM and it was only 5.99GB with slow processor.

Which would be easier to reclaim my old profile mail,bookmarks etc to?
Thunderbird or Seamonkey? Heck there I go again!

Gloria

 

Sorry the path should read
Under Documents and Settings\Applications
There is a User Data Folder which has four folders (empty) with those names that are usually assigned to your profiles. ie 4RUHXY83
I don't know what they are or how they got there or if they are some internal working of the XP system.

 

Gloria,
your posts are making me dizzy. You don't need to create separate "Profiles" as Seamonkey, and all programs after 4.8, can create as many user accounts are you wish, under one profile. However, at this time I don't know if I understand what is the problem. The fact remains that 4.76, i.e. communicator has different formats from the later program. I don't know if this conversion is automatic as it was some five years ago, when the first new programs came out. I will try to reread your posts, and see if I can come up with a coherent answer. But, at this point my suggestion is to create new mail accounts in Seamonkey. That should be the easy part. And, don't confuse mail accounts with profiles.

 

I'm sorry, that is the way that I have been feeling also.

On my slave drive and backed up on my new C:\ drive is
Windows/Applicationdata\Mozilla\profiles
My five old mail/bookmark information is there under the file names that I use.

These are the ones that I wanted to recover.
Apparently, they could have been converted from Com 4.76, but that program is gone from both C and slave drives.

My confusion was in the fact that Sea Monkey asked where to find the profiles and since they are Mozilla also, I had hoped to move that old Mozilla folder into the new XP C:drive and then I could point to it.


You see, looking at the Profiles Folder Location information reference.
The only difference is the folder that they are stored in as I see it.
Windows 98 is C:\Windows\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles
Windows XP is C:\Documents and Settings\User Name\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles
It just seemed to me that the old Mozilla folder should have been able to be copied to the XP location and then you would create the Sea Monkey profiles and that way they would be there in C:\Documents and Settings....etc when Sea Monkey started up.
That is why I didn't do the profile manager creation on Sea Monkey yet as I wanted to find out if this was possible first.

Obviously, I am all wet!

Thanks
Gloria

 

Gloria, that is exactly what could have happened. Place your Win 98 Profile Name folder in the Profiles folder of SeaMonkey. If nothing happens, then open the SeaMonkey Profile Manager, and create a Profile using the same name as your Win 98 Profile you just moved to the SeaMonkey Profiles folder.

 

Thank you very much Ramona,

It worked, it worked!

It was a couple of years ago that you helped me do this when I had to switch cable providers. I used this method several times on Windows 98 and I was beginning to think maybe they were in different codes or something and that was why Westside couldn't see what I was trying to do.

You are the greatest!

I have over 200 business emails to work through and then perhaps you can help me eliminate the Netscape old stuff and keep this new computer clean of registry problems.

I have Wise Clean on this computer for registries, but I'm not sure if it does C:\ and the slave D:\ at the same time. I'm a bit leary of deleting as I don't want that program to delete something that I might need on XP

I'm going to try to clean out the slave of redundant programs perhaps then it will clean the registry better?

FIRST I'm going to backup the new C: Mozilla Profiles

Question: Should I continue this thread or start a new one?
Thanks again
Gloria

 

You go girl! Glad the Profile works now.

Why don't you start a new thread, and yes, of course I will help you with whatever needs doing...

Be very, very cautious with a Registry cleaner, as you can really ruin your OS. If the Registry program doesn't backup the files it deletes, then export any Registry key deleted to a folder on your HDD, in the event the Registry Cleaner is overly zealous.