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Windows Vista Ram For Vista

Discussion in 'Legacy Windows' started by hawk22, 2007/01/31.

  1. 2007/01/31
    hawk22

    hawk22 Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Hi, I have read that to boost Ram on Vista you can stick in your USB Stick and Vista will draw from it. Does that mean that if you only have 512 MB of Ram and you would like to run your PC on the recomended 1 GIG that all you have to do is stick a 512 MB USB Stick in, that sounds to simple to me.
    Can anyone explain??
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    Steve R Jones

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    It's called Ready Boost.

    Something to Look into
    http://windowsbbs.com/showthread.php?t=58839

    Not all flash drives are compatible....
    I added a 2gig flash drive to a Vista machine with 1 gig of ram..Seemed to make a bit of an increase in preformance.
     

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    ReggieB

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    It'll be a speed thing. An OS will use the hard disk as RAM if you use more memory than you have physical memory installed. However, you get a performance drop because the hard disk access speed is a lot slower than RAM access speed. CPUs have very fast connections to your main RAM. It's the fastest bus on the motherboard. Access to any other bus is going to be significantly slower. So you can use a memory stick for RAM, but it will be limited by the speed of the USB bus.

    512 RAM + 512 USB is always going to be slower than 1024 RAM.

    Therefore, if you are desperate, using a USB memory stick may be a useful way to temporarily boost the RAM, but upgrading the main system RAM is going to give you much better performance.
     
  5. 2007/02/01
    hawk22

    hawk22 Geek Member Thread Starter

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    thanks guys, I think I will wait for some time before I will consider Vista I can see many good points, but still a lot of uncertainty as well.
    thanks
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    Steve R Jones

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    Windows Vista's SuperFetch and ReadyBoost Analyzed from TomsHardware

     
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    Thanks Steve for the link to the RedyBoost Toms Hardware article. I had forgotten about this feature of Vista.
    I have an under used 1GB USB stick that I'll try out when my Vista Business edition arrives as part of the Guaranteed upgrade that MS are currently offering on XP Pro purchases.
    Hopefully the 1GB of DDR System memory and 1GB USB stick memory will give my P4 2.8 system another couple of years a life.
     
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    Paul

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    Hawk22,
    I'll be interested to hear if the Aero desktop runs with the added 512 of USB2 memory. As I understand it, the Aero desktop won't run on a system with 512K of memory. Vista Basic edition is aimed at these PC's. But the extra USB RAM should work?

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    Arie

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    Ahh... not even Windows 9x would run with 512K memory... :eek:

    Now, you probably mean 512MB memory. In that case: RAM has little to do with Aero. Aero depends on your video cards capabilities & memory on the video card (the exception being 'on board' video). See: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/capable.mspx

     
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    Paul

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    I was getting Broadband bits mixed up with RAM bits.:eek:

    To be fair though, Vista will run like a dog with only 512MB RAM. Probably similar to XP with 128MB RAM. It uses nearly all that just to run the OS, Although I believe the basic version is less hungry. But yes, the MINIMUM requirements for the Graphics card to run Aero, is something like a Geforce 5200+ and 128MB RAM in Nvidia speak.
     
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    CrunchDude

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    I'm thinking of getting 2GB's of RAM. Or at least 1 1/2GB's. What do you guys think? Too much? I have a P M Centrino 1.73GHz, and an ATIFire GL video card with 128MB of video RAM. I mainly do browsing, I do still run AOL (yea, yea, I know. :rolleyes: ), FireFox, maybe some Adobe and I want to enjoy my UXGA display....Hmmm...

    Thanks guys. ;)
     
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    Arie

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    Personally: I'm getting 2GB with my new laptop. I wouldn't want anything less than 1.5G.
     
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    Yea, I hear you on the 1.5 gigs at a minimum, but then again, why not go all the way? ;) What laptop are you getting? I can't wait for mine to arrive. :D
     
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    Arie

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    I got a Dell Latitude D820
    • Intel® Coreâ„¢ 2 Duo T7200 (2.00GHz) 4M L2 Cache, 667Mhz Dual Core
    • 15.4 inch Wide Screen WSXGA+ LCD Panel
    • 2.0GB, DDR2-667 SDRAM, 2 DIMMS
    • 256MB NVIDIA® Quadro NVS 110M TurboCacheâ„¢
    • 80GB Hard Drive, 9.5MM, 7200RPM
    • Touchpad with UPEK® Fingerprint Reader
    • Dell Wireless® 350 Bluetooth Module
    • 8X DVD+/-RW, Data Only
    • Intel® 3945 802.11a/g Dual-Band Mini Card
    • 9 Cell Primary Battery
    • Additional 9 Cell Primary Battery
    • FreeDOS Operating System Kit

    I got the FreeDOS because I have plenty of copies of Vista Ultimate :D

    I didn't go all the way on memory, because 4GB seems a bit excessive on a laptop :D (not to mention the $$$, $642 more than the 2GB).
     
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    I got my Laptop with 1 gig, spending the money on the T7200 Dual Core thinking if I really needed more RAM, I could upgrade.

    Of course HP split the two Dimm's 512/512 instead of putting a single 1022 stick in it :rolleyes:

    The advantage to that is if one fails, but still.....

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    The advantage to that is if one fails, but still.....-> Wondering if it's running the ram in Dual Mode...

    I ran one of the beta's on a Sempron 2400 with 512 megs of ram and intergrated video and it actually ran pretty nice...
     
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    Hi Steve,

    Good question - didn't think of that.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    For RAM... "Some is good, more is better" - until you reach the limit imposed by the OS (I've got 4 gB, but Vista 32 bit will only recognize 3.25 gB)
     
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    Hi John,

    Maybe maybe not - depends on what you're doing and the hardware.

    Then there is something called price/performance ratio. Doubling RAM doesn't equal doubling performance.

    I've always been aware of what's running on my systems and understand how to deal with superfluous processes/apps.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Oooh! Nice specs!! ;) I decided against the Core Duo, so that I could afford the UXGA display. 2GB is the max for me. I am a reseller, so I can always get a T60 Core Duo when the prices come down a little.

    What's a FreeDOS OS Kit? Hmm...
     
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    Arie

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    Thanks :) I thought so too. I'll be using the laptop for 3 months as my main computer while visiting the US, so I needed it to be a good enaugh... and it should hopefully last me 3-5 years.

    I dunno, but it reduces my costs, since I have enough licenses for Vista.

    If anyone is interested, you can access Dell's 'Open source' solutions by selecting the "Small Business" version of either Desktops or Notebooks.
     

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