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Discussion in 'Security and Privacy' started by marrisldm, 2007/01/30.

  1. 2007/01/30
    marrisldm

    marrisldm Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hey, after taking advice and ignoring previous e-mails, today i received this;

    Good Morning,

    We have recently sent you a letter of reminder.
    This has been returned as undelivered.

    If we do not receive a response on your part within 7 days, this will be treated as fraud.

    By means of your mobile number, etc. we can identify you.

    IP-address: 172.213.84.35 (ISP by concluding the contract: The whole IPv4 address space)
    e-mail:
    phone number:

    You signed up for our service on 26.10.06 at 12:35 h via the website www.starmsg.co.uk with the use of the IP address 172.213.84.35. Your tariff includes a one-time setup fee. When signing up, you confirmed to have read and understood our price list as well as our terms of business. We kindly ask you to fulfill your binding obligations.

    We kindly ask you to pay the amount of GBP 97.87 within 7 days.

    Send a cheque to:
    starmsg Ltd., The 401 Centre, 302 Regent Street, London W1B 3HH

    Pay online: We will accept MasterCard, VISA, American Express and Paypal:
    >> http://billpay.starmsg.co.uk/?61=598741&p=0106



    Best regards,
    Marco Karger
    Lawyer

    starmsg Ltd. | The 401 Centre, 302 Regent Street | London W1B 3HH
    Tel: 0871-218-2767 | Fax: 0700-581-1218 | helpdesk@starmsg.co.uk
    --
    You have given us the address mentioned below:
    James Smith, Fake street 918, LN6 England (undelivered according to Royal Mail)



    should i take this seriously? I did browse there site but i am sure i didnt agree to any payment thing. thanks.
     
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    Dcrypter

    Dcrypter Inactive

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    Sounds strange to me. If a website needs payment for registration they will ask for a credit card prior to access.

    You cant be charged with fraud unless you used a credit card that didn't have your name on it. At least thats to the best of my knowledge. I believe that fraud is paying or presumption of paying under false pretenses, not only that but they would have to prove that it was you.

    Email their help desk and say that you where browsing and that you have no interest in using their services at this time. Ensure that you attach the email you received.
     

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    marrisldm

    marrisldm Inactive Thread Starter

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    thats what i thought, i did browse there site, and it looked totally different thn it does now, so i think it may have just brought the charch oout and are trying to cheat me, i never read nything about payment, if they wanted it why didnt they ask for details?
     
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    James

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    It doesn't sound legitimate to me. Frankly, I wouldn't bother responding and I think I would set up a filter to block them. You are not guilty of fraud in any way, shape or form. If you wish to contact them as the previous poster suggested, his advice sounds reasonable. You might also (if you wished to contact them) tell them that you are contacting the police and advising them of the situation. It would be interesting to see their reaction. But me...? I wouldn't even bother with them.
     
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    marrisldm

    marrisldm Inactive Thread Starter

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    i am tempted to email them, say if they email me one more time i am getting legal help. they are attempting to fraud me and i asked aol whether i signed up and they said i didn't. they didnt say that but could scare them off. if you wanted payment where was the place to put my card number?

    should i send that?
     
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    TeMerc

    TeMerc Inactive Alumni

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    It's a scam, do not send them any info at all if you did not specifically sign up for the service.

    It sounds just like the scam site pocornDOTcom which did the same thing to users, after accepting a 'trial' of their service, users were bullied into paying. They just recently got smacked by the FCC, see here

    Ignore them, better yet, tell them you're going to send the email and all related info to the proper authorities.

    Then see what they say.
     
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    Zander

    Zander Geek Member Alumni

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    I agree! Ignore them. I wouldn't even contact them and tell them I was reporting it to the proper authorities. I'd just report them and forget about them. Just my two cents worth.

    Oh, I removed your email address and phone number from your first post. I don't know if they were correct or not but I think it best you don't leave them exposed on any web page. The email addy being there is almost a sure invite for spam. The phone number; who knows what.... ;)
     
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    marrisldm

    marrisldm Inactive Thread Starter

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    thanks, i am so fed up with the emails i sent them this...

    Hello Mr Karger,

    After receiving your e-mail this morning, i decided to do some investigating, and, apparently alot of browsers on your site have received similar e-mails. I have spoken to AOL live help about the matter and they say you could force money out of me via my I.P Address, as each time AOL users log in and out the address changes. This, is apparently similar to a scam by popcorn.net, see here for details, http://www.infoworld.com/article/07...world.com/article/07/01/12/HNmovieland_1.html

    I live next door to a Police Man and he said this was a scam, i am not frauding you, as i have given you no credit card details, but infact you are attempting to fraud me. If i receive one more e-mail requesting payment for a sevice i did not use, i have been told by the policeman and AOL to report you to the proper authorities, and you business could be closed down.

    I hope you have read this and understand what could happen.

    Thanks for reading and i hope you do what you know is right. Once again, thankyou.


    should it work?
     
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    TeMerc

    TeMerc Inactive Alumni

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    That should get their attention. Tho you may want to make one minor correction:
    I have spoken to AOL live help about the matter and they say you could force money out of me via my I.P Address, as each time AOL users log in and out the address changes.
    Should be:
    I have spoken to AOL live help about the matter and they say you could [SIZE= "2"]not[/SIZE] force money out of me via my I.P Address, as each time AOL users log in and out the address changes.


    In the mean time, I have posted to their SiteAdvisor ratings:
    http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/starmsg.com/

    I encourage you to do the same thing, seeing as you're the user in question. It just takes a minute or two to sign up.
     
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    marrisldm

    marrisldm Inactive Thread Starter

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    also it said the ip address started with 175. etc but i am on aol so mine would be 195. etc?
     
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    TeMerc

    TeMerc Inactive Alumni

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    List of AOL Dial Up IP Ranges & AOL Proxy IPs

    Btw, hit the button to rate me on my SiteAdvisor post. I'm trying to get to 'Expert Reviewer'. ;)
     

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