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I don't want IE7!!

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer & Microsoft Edge' started by indutch, 2007/01/06.

  1. 2007/01/06
    indutch Lifetime Subscription

    indutch Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hello All -

    I'm running WinXP Pro Media Edition and Automatic Updates is active.

    A week or so ago I got a notification in my taskbar that there was an "update" that was ready to install. Specifically, IE7. Although I am completely happy with IE6, I figured I'd give it a go and see what MS considered to be the "new and improved[SIZE= "1"](?)[/SIZE]" version was like.

    After using it for a couple of days I decided that I didn't like it at all so I uninstalled it with "Add/Remove programs" in the Control Panel. So far, so good I thought. However, since then I have had to fix several things that IE7 changed in my DSL software. Not a big deal, really, just a time consuming pain in the neck.

    I think everything is now back to where it was before the installation but I have some questions:

    • Short of turning it off, how can I NOT have Automatic Updates download this again?
    • Can the 'download' itself be deleted from my system?
    • If so, where might I find it hiding?

    I appreciate Bill & Company constantly trying to fix, patch and otherwise apply band-aids to their leaky software. But, wouldn't it be grand if all of that could be done B4 they released the software? In a perfect world, maybe.

    As always, any and all help will be greatly appreciated. :)


    Mike
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    All downloads from Windows Update go into a temporary folder which gets deleted when the process has completed.

    I have never been offered IE7 from WU since I downloaded it manually and installed before that could happen. Other updates can be denied by unchecking the box next to it and after that tell to "not come back ". Is that option not there?

    A registry edit can be made. It is designed for administrators who do not want individual downloads of IE7 on networked computers. I assume that it would work on any computer. This is a cut-n-paste from a Microsoft article which I regrettably have lost track of:

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    Registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Setup\7.0
    Key value name: DoNotAllowIE70

    When the key value name is not defined, distribution is not blocked.
    When the key value name is set to 0, distribution is not blocked.
    When the key value name is set to 1, distribution is blocked.

    If you're not familiar with the registry, tread carefully and ask a question rather than making a mistake!

    Christer
     

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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    IE 7 does not change "DSL" settings. Those controls if anywhere are under the control of the network configuration aspects of the OS, and installing and/or uninstalling IE 7 does not touch them.

    As to automatic delivery, see these notes by MS-MVP Robear Dyer:
    As for the Automatic Blocker utility, there is no need for its use on a stand-alone computer:
     
  6. 2007/01/09
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    indutch Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thank you for your posts Christer and Bill. :)

    At my wife's urging, I went ahead and installed IE7. I still don't want it but . . .

    Upon finishing the installation I checked my e-mail using MailWasher Pro. I 'processed' the mail in MWP and OE opened as usual. When opening the e-mails I'm being asked if I want to "Debug ". Although this has happened in the past, rarely, I have to wonder why now, after installing IE7, am I getting this with two seperate e-mails from two different people. Coincidence or . . . . what?

    I'm going to give IE7 a try for a while longer to maintain the peace. But, just in case, if I decide to remove IE7 later I'm going to try to stop the "downloading" of it with MS's offered toolkit. Failing that, I'll hopefully stop the installation of it with "don't install" button.

    Thanks for your help.


    Mike
     
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    Tools, Internet Options, Advanced

    Look near the top of the entry choices. There are two "disable script debugging" choices that should be checkmarked.

    A little lower down is an entry 'Display a notification about any script error' and this should be un]-checked.
     
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    indutch Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks, Bill -

    Disable Script Debugging for IE was checked and "Other" wasn't - but is now. The "Display" was (and remains) unchecked. Thanks. :)


    Mike
     
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    Thanks but I've been using Computer Associates FW/AV for a long time. :) It costs a few bucks but I think it's worth every nickle.


    Mike
     
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    PoppyJ

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    I don't want IE 7

    I'm with you. I did the same thing and it ******* up my HP Aoi settings. I could print, but not scan. Had to uninstall IE7 and reinstall my HP Aoi.
     
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    The vagaries of "autoupdate "

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    I think the acceptance of automatic downloading of anything is a big mistake. This applies especially to Microsoft "security" updates. The potential "insecurity" inherent in all such code is enough to ruin your whole day, or more.

    For example, I installed XP Pro SP2. No worries, right? Wrong. It required four hours on the phone with Microsoft tech help just to get my computer to reboot. Half the programs I use every day now have irreconcilable defects; some necessary driver updates don't work well, and never will; some (application notification-related) sound files have become garbled and can't be fixed; and so on. I think the probability that setting any application to automatically update itself is more likely that damage will occur than not, and that goes double for antiviral definitions and the like.

    As a result of this policy, I reject probably 90% of offered updates. First, I need to understand exactly why I supposedly need it, how it does what it's supposed to do, and what experience others have had after installing it.

    By the way, I didn't like IE7 much, either.
     
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    I don't want IE 7

    Thanks for the support and the hints. I have been a "prisoner" of WU because I hear so much about security breaches that I don't want to let someone hijack my machine. Additionally, my wife who is not a fan of computers (email especially) but who HAS to use it for business purposes, has reported to me on more than one ocassion that a WU has altered some setting that made her life miserable -- no, it didn't send out "Pop-ups" telling her to continue living with me! All I know is that it frustrates the hell out of her, and as I said, she uses computers because she has to do so. Her IT guy makes his living setting everything right again. I think she's now paying tuition for the third kid.

    In any case, I think I will turn off the automatic updates as well, and then read the KB for the reason why the update should be installed. Should have done that from the beginning, but I trusted Microsoft. (Kinda like asking the Fox to guard the Hen house, eh?)

    Will check out the IE7 Blocking program.

    Have a good one.
     
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    I don't like IE7 and need some help.

    Since MS downloaded this update my internet explorer "has experienced a problem and needs to close." So far I haven't been able to find a solution or download that stops this from happening. It doesn't happen all the time so I am wondering if it has to do with websites that still use the explorer 6 version? Advice anybody? Zen
     
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    indutch Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I appreciate everyones updates and information. We have been under Mother Nature's ice in SW Missouri for the last 10 days and without power or "phone service" until yesterday, January 21, 2007.

    Thank you for continuing this thread. I continue to learn. :)


    Mike
     
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    Hello Poppy,

    I don't know what your WU settings were, but I assume now that they will be "notify before downloading/installing ".

    "Blind" updating was never a good idea, if you have no issues with your system, great care should be taken in updating non-critical patches.

    Another option is to use MS's Catalog downlad site: In the update site, in the left Panel > use Administrator options > then in the main Panel > Windows Update Catalog. WU will scan and then go to a page where you pick the OS - example XP SP2 > then pick Criticals. A list will display, by default is in title order > choose to display by date posted, default display is latest 1st.

    This also of course allows for doing them individually and running the system for awhile to see their effect.

    I've been doing this since 2002 and if I ever have to reload the OS, don't have to go on line to do updates since I've saved all the setup exe's.

    Regards - Charles
     
  17. 2007/01/23
    PoppyJ

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    I don't want IE 7

    Dear Charles,

    Thanks for the advice. Will follow up on it.

    All the best,

    Poppy J
     

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