Ntsmp?

Suddenly my FF 1504 has been starting to make duplicates of incoming messages in 'Local Folders ' - and then subfolders ntsmp-1 - 2 - 3 - etc. This 'local folders' is a subfolder UNDER the 'Local Folders' with bold text - and is on the same 'level' with Sent, etc.

I really haven't the faintest idea what this is all about - and I have not fussed with any FF stuff for months (configurations, etc.) and I am using NO aux FF programs

Anyone have any idea of what's going on? Thanks

 

I would like you to make sure that you are talking about FF=Firefox, or TB=Thunderbird. firefox is a browser only, and would not have the structure which you report, i.e. Local Folders, which is in mail. Also, are you sure that the files are "ntsmp "? A search brought up nothing of the kind. I am sure that there is something else. I am not even going to try to guess what or where you have.
I have heard of files showing up in Netscape mail, with McAfee antivirus scanning.
So, please, review what you have.

 

Wow - sorry - it's TB - don't know how I came to write FF

The folders it creates is called ntsmp - and I have no idea what it is doing - I have no recollection of ever naming any folders 'ntsmp' -

Mind you - these are duplicates - the so-called 'regular' deposit into 'inbox' occurs as it should

 

I did a thorough search, and came up empty handed.
Which operating system do you have?
I will ask someone else, but don't be surprised if you get no takers.
You could try to create a new profile, set up your mail, and see if it happens again.

 

Win XP Pro

I'm on home unit now where I don't use ISP system - but do email with Yahoo with parallel feed from ISP - (a good trick for portable email btw - if one's ISP does not have access via web - but does need an ISP that is willing to set it up)

Anyhow I will NOT go thru the rough (for me) profile-changing etc - but rather just delete these strange ntsmp folders - but Mon when on the office computer I'll see if I can dig deeper - this might be something that could help someone else - let's see

Thanks your help so far!

 

Some of the searches indicate that the appearance of such phantom files may be related to your server, and there you have Yahoo. I don't know if you are going to get anywhere with Yahoo, as they are very microsoft-centric.
Don't bother with a new profile. It is worth the effort, in some cases, but I don't think that it will fix your problem.

 

The problem was not related to Yahoo at all - I was just explaining how I used Yahoo as a email provider at home with a parallel feed from my ISP - it was not related to the office use and problem -

But now at office and see I gave the wrong letter order of the folder - it was nstmp - and the 'tmp' to me suggests temporary. (NSTMP - could it somehow be referring to NetScape Temp?)

It also has stopped dumping copies in those folders - so now there sits a group of folders -- nstmp-1 thru nstmp-6 -- with 10-12 mails in each of the files from 29 Dec - 5 Jan -- all files unrelated - and danged if I can think how this happened - I have DONE no fussing around with any configurations or folder-making, etc

(and have to apologize for being very non-careful - first saying FF instead of TB - and now recalling letters in wrong order)

 

Now, we are talking! I was going to give you an older thread which would have been reasonable, but the wording of your post made me holding it back. I have no idea if the causes given in the other thread would cause your problem. Just follow the advice given in the other thread.
You will have to figure out what you have, and take it from there.

 

Wow - that really is it - isn't it

Interesting in that I was saying the same thing - except in Mongolian (one of the dangers of having a computer on-line 24 hours) and with obfuscations like FF and interchanging letters (one reason there was it made me also think of smtp so the s-m-p remained 'in same order')

Anyhow it seems to be the cyberspace analog of the O'Hare realspace sighting of an UFO last week

The only troubling thing is that one chap in the old thread said the nstmp had REPLACED his inbox - scary.

But it does seem to anyhow be a real problem - so hope the Mozzilla people keep it in mind.

 

Mongolian aside, I wish I could help you. The problem has shown up in different ways, and not necessarily related. If I understand correctly, your problem is exhibited in having duplicate messages. One way around it, would be to delete your account, and, then start from scratch. The old mail is not removed, and can be, easily, brought into the newly created account. I reread the thread, but I don't think that anyone said that nstmp file/folder replaced the Inbox. I have no recollection of the original message. That is another reason why any technical support should not be done privately. That would mean that the account has no Inbox. I never heard of that problem, being reported by anyone else.
You should take a look at your mail account, on the hard drive, with TB closed. Delete any ntmp file/folder, delete the Inbox.msf file. And leave the Inbox alone.
My experience had been with McAfee AV, and NS4.x. Every time I did a scan, a file was created. But that was long time ago, over five yrs., and I have no recollection what made the problem go away. By the way none of the file contained mail. Some were empty, some contained a .dll file.
I never had a problem with Copernic Agent, which I am still using.

 

This was from Steve Carroll's post:

(in the old thread)

>
> Which build are you using? I think bienvenu fixed a crasher bug in
> folder compaction recently.
>
> when I restarted mozilla my inbox was EMPTY (oh no!) but the nstmp
> folder contained those files plus some other "junk" I'd deleted from
> the trash.
>

As I've reported this strange activity seemed to only take place end-Dec thru 5 Jan - now gone - so with all the fuss I had last summer with profiles and heavens knows what - I'm not revisiting that nightmmare (for me) - but hopefully the Mozilla folks will note that there is some kind of hole in the sytem - or whatever you might call it - anyhow a landing platform for cyberspace UFO's

 

I did not see any reference to a specific Mozilla build. It is not only possible, but certain that if one uses an unstable build that problems will occur. I have been dabbling in the use of "nightlies ", and problems related to mail have appeared, at times. I, probably, would never notice a problem, as I am using several profiles, and one may have the propensity of misbehaving, I chuck it. However, nothing untoward has happened in several years.

 

This issue seems to have been handled here by Ramona

http://www.windowsbbs.com/showthread.php?t=48473&highlight=nstmp

I would note that while the poster asking the question said the posts in the folder were those they had deleted from trash - this was NOT the case with me - the mails were legitimate -wanted posts that were still also in the inbox

This issue was well over a year ago - and Ramona doesn't see any reason why they should be showing up - but also TB upgrades do not seem to have handled the issue - at least thru 1508

 

Upgrades don't, usually, fix anything. But new profiles often do.

 

Re upgrades - is there any reason to go to TB 1509 from 1508? Is it TOTALLY painless?

 

It has been for me. I used the automatic update.
As far as "needing" I have to abstain myself on this one. I can't remember which update, but the main purpose was to be able to do an update from 1.5x to 2.0x.
1.5.x will be supported, at least through spring, meaning that there will be updates to fix any vulnerability.

 

the main purpose was to be able to do an update from 1.5x to 2.0x.

I assume one can still go from 1508 to 2000 without going first to 1509? right? I would prefer to stay with 1508 as it is running 'OK' -- as per 'IIINBDFI' - ?

 

No need to update to 1.5.0.9. It is, just, more convenient, should you want to upgrade to 2.x. however, I never tried that approach. I have both 1.5.0.9 and 2.0.0.1.

 

Rob,

One thing to consider, if staying with 1.5.0.8, and that is, the reason for the updates... See these Security Advisories for 1.5.0.8/9, and 2.0, which have been addressed in 2.0.0.1: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html#firefox2.0.0.1

Upgrading from 1.5.0.8 to 2.0.0.1, is a simple task:
First:
Copy your plugins folder so you can replace the default folder after installing 2.0.0.1
Next:
Uninstall 1.5.0.8, using Add/Remove
Delete the Mozilla Firefox folder, located here:
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox

REBOOT YOUR PC

Install 2.0.0.1, and it will automatically pick up your Profile.