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Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by hawk22, 2007/01/08.

  1. 2007/01/08
    hawk22

    hawk22 Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Hi all, I have a question here for the old timers. I have a older Socket A Motherboard "Iwill KK266-R" that is running at present a AMD Duron 800.
    What I would like to find out is, can this Mobo run a AMD Athlon 2000 with a 266 FSB or a AMD Athlon 2200 Thoroughbred 133 MHz with a Double Data Rate effective bus speed of 266 MHz.
    The Reviews of the Board state it supports DDR 266/200 MHz FSB.
    I know people who run Athlon 1800 on this Board.
    If it could handle those CPU's it would do for a upgrade to speed it up a bit.
    thanks
    hawk22
     
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    Chiles4

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    The reviews on the net say the board can handle up to 1.2Ghz AMD processors. It also says it's "future compatible" up to 1.5Ghz cpus because it has 3-phase power. But I wouldn't give that much credence unless you could track down a bios that explicitly supports the cpus you're interested in.

    I actually used this board in a rig I built for my brother. Based on the age of this board (2001?) and the fact that the "confirmed" support for this board says "1.2Ghz processor ", I would bet heavily that an AMD 2000+ or greater would not work.

    IIRC, there was an architectural change in Athlon XP cpus once you crossed the AMD 1400+ threshold. This makes me believe that you would not be successful.

    Gary
     

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    I think Gary is right on the money and would add that you might have an outside shot with a 2000+ Palamino but if its a Thoroughbred, there is probably no way because of the change in the instruction set which most boards from that timeframe will not support. As Gary suggested, you need to research BIOS updates and focus on processor compatability in the each revision. Palamino cores were the next step up from Thunderbird's and some have had success running them on boards which did not "officially" support them.

    ;)

    Good luck finding a 2000+ Palamino - its among the hardest to find regardless of price.
     
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    Chiles4

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    The manual said that board supports Palominos of 1.2Ghz or higher.

    The Iwill site offers no more help than that.

    "I'm getting a bad feeling about this Luke. "
     
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    mattman

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    I believe all the info so far.

    I have an Asus A7V133C (now my daughter's) which was running an 850Mhz Duron, the maximum CPU I could put into it was a 1.2 Ghz originally. Several years later Asus offered a BIOS update to allow up to a 2.2 Ghz processor. I updated the BIOS and now it runs a 1.7 Ghz (Palamino, BTW). (I also threw in all my spare PC133 RAM and it runs quite well :) )

    I think you will need to find that BIOS update.

    Matt
     
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    hawk22

    hawk22 Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Hi, and thanks guy's much appreciated as always.
    I have dropped the idea now of using a 2000+ or 2200+ on this board.
    Has anyone a good sugestion of a board that would suit either of those CPU's.
    without having to go and change the Ram using PC133.
    thanks
    hawk22
     
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    hawk22

    hawk22 Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Hi, I have found a board and hope that someone has some knowledge about this board.
    MSI MS-6340M Ver5.0
    thanks
    hawk22
     
  9. 2007/01/10
    hawk22

    hawk22 Geek Member Thread Starter

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    I don't think anyone can give you a better answer than what MSI documented in the link you provided - thats what the manufacturer says will work and won't work. What else are you looking for re: confirmation?

    ;)
     
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    Chiles4

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    It was a bit of luck that I happened to use that Iwill board in the past but I don't think you're going to find too many people still familiar with mainboards from that era.
     
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    mattman

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    MSI seem to have all the basic support for that motherboard. A manual is available for download, which is handy. It does not appear to be one of their main product lines, so "exceptional" support is not offered (continuing updates of drivers, FAQs, etc).

    A Google search did not seem to find any "why won't this board work" questions in the first few pages, so I would conclude that it should be a basic, solid, performer.

    If you run it, install the updated 4 in1 VIA drivers that are offered for download.

    Matt
    PS: maybe note that the CPU support list states BIOS version W6340VMS.633, the BIOS downloads have version 6.3 (latest) as the third release. If it still has the original BIOS you may need to use your old CPU to upgrade the BIOS, then you can install the faster processor.
    PPS: those AthlonXP CPUs run very hot, so you will need to get your technique of replacing the thermal compound down to a fine art. Read the instructions for Articsilver5 at their website, www.arcticsilver.com . You do not need to use the arcticsilver brand, but check your temperatures as soon as you boot up (in the BIOS settings). I would reinstall the compound at temps around 60*C or higher.
     
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    hawk22

    hawk22 Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Thank you so much Matt, for that advice. I have not bought the board yet, but I did ask the seller exactly that question what version Bios is on the board, but he did not know as he was only running a 1gig CPU on it. The reason I posted this question was partly as you mentioned it is not a very well known board and I could not find any as you say "don’t use this board" notes so I was hoping that someone on this Forum might have had some experience with this board, as I am a little bit weary with MSI boards my old PIII socket 370 I replaced twice for leaking Caps. And yes my old Duron 800 will run on this board to be able to upgrade the BIOS something I have never done before and I would need some mighty good help on that one but I would like to try it once.
    And yes I have Arctic Silver only 8 month ago I installed a AMD XP 2600+ onto a Asus Board and I polished the base of the heat sink to a mirror finish before attaching the CPU and it is running very well with no overheating problems.
    Thank you Matt you have been great help.

    Hawk22
     

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