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System Restores not so friendly on C:\

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by pontiaclover, 2006/12/04.

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    pontiaclover

    pontiaclover Inactive Thread Starter

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    ok so i had a problem with my computer recently, but it was fixed.

    Now the next question coming up is why can i not select System Restore for C:\?

    These are the 2 Drives on my computer

    1. C:\ Windows XP (80 gig)
    2. F:\ Anything Drive (40 gig [Shared to Network Computers])

    It is monitoring the F drive for system restore but it will not let me select C.

    Would it have something to do with the fact that Windows was originally install on the 40 gig and then ghosted on the 80 gig?

    I did delete the paration off F and reformatted once everything was working right (i gave it a week before i did this).

    How can i fix this?
     
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    PeteC

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    Possibly

    Check out the registry string
    Code:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup
    and at Source Path in the right hand pane.

    Which drive letter is present?

    Further thoughts ....

    Make sure that the ribbon connecting them to the motherboard is connected with the correct orientation (these are normally keyed so a problem here is unlikely) and double-check that the master/slave pins are set correctly. Try switching the order in which the hard drives are attached to the ribbon - the master should, in general, be at the end.
     
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    pontiaclover

    pontiaclover Inactive Thread Starter

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    Which drive letter is present?

    For Source Path i have "D:\" without quotes.
    Service Pack Source and Cache are both on C:\
    and bootdir is C:\...

    My Hard Drives are set correctly. This is the config

    Western Digital Drive [Label: Windows XP] 80 Gig
    Jumper: Master
    Cable: Primary Slave

    Western Digital Drive [Label: Anything Drive] 40 Gig
    Jumper: Slave
    Cable: Primary Master

    The reason i have it set like this is because if i were to connect the wire in the right way it would then be twisted and bent.

    Though in the BIOS they do show up as what the jumpers say so i am sure they are setup right.
     
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    PeteC

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    A further suggestion ....

    Disconnect F:\ drive - either pull the ribbon cable or the power cable and boot up. Can you now set System Recovery on C:\?
     
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    pontiaclover

    pontiaclover Inactive Thread Starter

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    It works now.

    this is a weird fix though... This is what i did.

    I allowed "Windows XP" to boot without "Anything Drive" connected like you said and it showed up as Monitoring (Which i expected)

    So what i did is change the System Restore Space Setting just in case so it would save a config for this Drive. I then shut off the computer reconnected F and now it monitors both C:\ and F:\ :)

    That seems weird though that after that it would suddenly work...
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    I know that if two HDDs are jumpered Master/Slave, the position on the cable should not matter. I do however not like your setup where the positions on the cable are "wrong ".

    Suggestion #1: Swap the positions so that the Master is connected to the end of the cable and the Slave to the middle connector.

    Suggestion #2: Jumper both HDDs "Cable Select" and connect the one to be Master to the end of the cable and the one to be Slave to the middle connector (requires a 40-pin 80-consuctor cable).

    Maybe my suggestions make no difference but it should be tested.

    Christer
     
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    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    Not entirely - there was a logic behind my suggestion, which I am pleased to see worked, which was to eliminate Drive F:\ from the equation and let Windows concentrate on the C:\ drive :)
     
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    pontiaclover

    pontiaclover Inactive Thread Starter

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    Makes Sense. Thanks For helping.

    Also to Christer, it works so i mean it should be fine. My box is old [New m/b and cpu though], so it only has a spot for 1 drive. i used the second floppy area as a hard drive holder. So i put the more valuable drive (aka my C:\) in the spot it suppose to be in.

    ;)
     
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    BillyBob Lifetime Subscription

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    I myself say a great big YES.
    #1 because the two drives are different sizes and locations may not be the same. I think especiallly if you did Ghost it.

    Anytime you make any changes and find they are going to be OK I would believe that one of the first things to do would be to shurdown and restart System Restore.

    I myself did a lot of trash/unused removal today from all 5 drives. After I rebooted and ran for an hour or two and found that all appeared to be OK I worked with SR to make sure old RPs were gone and a new RP was made.

    I have been asked by Family members why I do this.

    My answer "Why should I leave an old RP around that may do nothing other than cause problems and.or contain a lot of stuff that no longer exists. "

    I also run a programs called RegSeeker and ask it to find references to stuff that I have removed from the HD. WOW !! I do ever get some big surprises at times. A couple of times I found references to things being in more than one place because I had either moved or re-installed to a different location.

    Bottom line ( at least mine )
    System Restore ( just like other types of backups ) must be kept up to date in order to be the most reliable.

    BillyBob
     
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