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2 computers able to host dial-up

Discussion in 'Networking (Hardware & Software)' started by Magia, 2006/11/23.

  1. 2006/11/23
    Magia

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    Hi all!

    I currently have 2 computers on a network at home and we have a dial up connection.
    I want to see if it is possible to have my dad's computer establish a conection to the net, and immeadiatly have mine to have the connection aswell. Also, i would like to have my computer connect to the net, and have my dad's computer also have the connection.

    so basically, what i want is to have both computers to be able to host the internet for each other.

    My dads computer has WinXP Pro
    My computer has WinXP Pro with SP2
    Please help!!!
     
  2. 2006/11/24
    Steve R Jones

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    Magia

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    Yay

    Hahahaha, Horay, thaks a lot. After asking dad to see what his workgroup was he said it was HOME but i checked and it was workgroup!

    Thanks
    Now i can host the net from both my computers :D
     
  5. 2006/11/30
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    Hosting and Sharing a Dial UP Connection

    Basically what you want to do is to use either computer to a dial in connection and then share the connection with the other.
    Basically what you will do is dial in , connect , have the "allow this computer to share its connection" ( or something like that in the LAN connection advanced settings of your network card).
    You could either share via a cross over cable between the network cards of the two computers or hook network cables to the lan ports ( the 4 ports not the internet port on the router).
    However others will know better if you can switch back and forth between the 2 computers for the dialup. I do not know if the networking will get confused if you swap back and forth especially if you are hooking the computer network cards directly and not using a router.
    Remember with dial up you are going to have limited bandwidth to begin with even before you start sharing the connection.
    No torrents for you.
     
  6. 2006/11/30
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    Hi,
    I could not resist the temptation to throw in my two cents from a recent expierence...At a friends house that has two computers, one has Windows Xp Home Edition and the other Windows Xp Pro, with the Home Edition as the only one set for DialUp connection...I wanted to set up the Xp Pro to dial up and a local computer store told me: (1) Dial up is 56K and the second computer would operate at approx 28k's...(2) And if we thought dial up was slow, think what it would be at 28k...(3) I was also told that even if a splitter was used that they both could not dial in, one would have to be done in order for the other to access the Internet...

    After reading and getting the info one of the previous replies to your post, I have learned something I was not aware of (Microsoft Article's #310563 and #314066)...
     
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    Master Green,

    What did you learn from this episode ?
    I had a situation of an older Mac that was for a kid - the Mac could handle broadband internet but did not have any means of inserting a wireless card or usb device ( plus driver issues and I am unfamiliar with wireless setup on a Mac- hardware or software).
    The parent had a wireless Win 98 connection and an unused network card.
    Could I share the wireless connection from the wireless connection of the PC via the PCs network card to the network card of the Mac.
    I spoke to one normal very experienced Mac tech , -he was unaware of any means. I spoke to a nutcase Mac tech via an ad in the paper . He went off on a tangent as I recall.
    A networking person answered the question in a flash - just turn on "Internet Sharing " although it is referrred to in a diffirent means in Xp as " allow this computer to share its internet connection ". So there you go.
    However I had a question for this same fellow later of sharing an internet connection that was already coming wireless and using a PC with multiple network cards as a router . ( The reception was best by a wi fi bowl antenna with a Zydas chipset USB adapter)

    link : http://www.usbwifi.orcon.net.nz/

    generally a 12 inch bowl with the adapter antenna 7 inches off the base

    - regarding using the computer as a router in essence this same fellow advised not to do it. Two routing tables to confuse the issue . Results if you went anywhere such as online banking would be frustrating.
    So you can only do so much with this simple internet sharing of Windows .
     
  8. 2006/12/05
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    Hi,
    What did I learn, that not all asprins cure computer headaches (ha,ha)... Anyways, I did alot of looking around and unfortunately all my experiences with computers never included Mac's...In my determination to conquer, I found what I need to do best from www.annoyances.org. In Networking two computers (dialup). one has to be on in-order for the other one to be able to access the Internet. I was going to connect them by parallel cable but have since discovered that a cross over cable will be the best choice. For the two computers to connect (primary computer being the Host and the second one set up as the Client), there are other steps needed to be done and hopefully those steps will be explained in the web site I mentioned. No matter what set up is done, Bandwith will be lost and the second computer as I like to refer to it as will be the one who will lose that but not as bad as I was originally told. Keep us posted here and someone along with myself will do our best to help you...I am not sure if I really answered your questions but bare with me and I'll try to do so if further postings require it...
     
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    In the end networking is " Vodoo Science" .
    Often networking people are either too busy or self important to help you out ( in many cases).
    Often older books on networking will explain things that never get talked about so to speak and are at the heart of most standard networking problems.
     
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    Hi Magia

    I can not vouch for my idea applyiing to Dial-up ( I have cable ) but it may pay you to get a Router. Then connect each machine to the Internet Via the Router and indpendent of the other machine. And you should be able to have them both online at the same time.
    This would get rid of the SHARING for at least the Internet. And you can still share things between machines if you wish.

    BillyBob
     
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    A Router will not connect dial up but will share

    Routers somehow are set up to connect to dial up.
    Only broadband high speed.
    A router will solve your problems - it will do the trick set up right.
    The cables do not go the one connection called "internet ".
    Take cables from the network cards ( which are fairly standard in most computers now as opposed to modems).
    Put the 2 cables into one of the 4 ports on the router ( not the one marked internet)
    Connect the one computer through the modem on dial up.
    The router will share the connection.
    Easiest way.
    Make sure though that the network cards are installed properly ( device manager no question or exclamation marks on the network cards) and that the network cards in this case as you are using dial up are not disabled in either the device manager ( enable) or the bios ( enable networking or something like that)
    You might find a program called Network Magic usefull as well.
    Also routers are often on sale with rebates as they are a good draw for retail big box stores to draw customers who have more than one computer and by now are probably fed up with the older slower one - that the adult with the charge card is using while the kids hog the newer faster computer. Look at the ads . You can usually pick up routers on sale at deep discount prices. All brands are pretty good.
     

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