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Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by mqdias, 2006/11/04.

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    mqdias

    mqdias Inactive Thread Starter

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    hi, here my question:

    My compaq notebook as two problems: the dd drive and the floppy are broken. My intention is was to install Win XP Pro in it, but because of those problems i couldn't.
    so, i removed the 2,5' hard disk and connected it to my desktop pc. I've booted from it and formated and installed the windows normally.
    Next, i put it again in the compaq notebook. at the beginning it seems like it would work fine, but after the compaq logo appeared, the screen stayed black with an underscore in the top left corner, blinking.

    Can anyone help me with this?
    Please...

    thank you very much!!
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    dd drive? Guessing you meant cd drive?
    Windows is real big on device drivers for the different pieces of hardware...Your current install doesn't have any of the correct drivers...Poping in the XP cd and doing a repair install would normally fix this. Is replacing the cd drive out of the question?
     

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    mqdias

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    but, how can i do to make a repair, after i putted the hard disk in the notebook?
    i've tried using an external cd drive, but because the notebook is a bit old, it doesn't support booting from usb.
     
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    While you could get away with it previously, XP cannot be installed as you have done on another computer.

    What you could do is to use the Desktop computer setup to transfer to the hard drive of the notebook computer the contents of the \i386 folder of the XP CD. This would involve formatting the hard disk as FAT32 and making it bootable into DOS. Then copy \i386 from the cd to a new folder \i386 on the hard drive. Reinstall into the notebook.

    Then do an installation from the DOS Command line. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307848&sd=tech
     
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    sorry, i didn't understand exactly wich steps do i have to make. how can i copy the folder? and about the other steps...
     
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    Bill Castner

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    Mount the notebook hard drive as a slave drive in the desktop computer.

    Format the notbook hard drive as a bootable drive, with the FAT32 filestore.

    Insert the XP CD into the desktop CD Drive. Lets assume it has drive letter E: in this setup, and your notebook hard drive appears as drive letter D: (Please adjust the below to fit your actual circumstances).

    Start, Run, CMD
    d:
    cd \
    md i386
    cd i386
    xcopy e:\i386\*.* /a /e /k

    exit.

    Then install the drive back into the notebook. Follow the instructions in the MS KB article I linked above.
     
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    mqdias

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    i've formated the hard disk drive and copied the i386 directory. i've installed the drive in the notebook and... nothing.
    in the article that was advised there was a reference to dos prompt, but i can't access to this. it makes reference also to xp cd-rom, that also i can't use on the notebook because it's broken.
    can you help me once more, please!
     
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    mqdias

    mqdias Inactive Thread Starter

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    one more thing:

    back, you mention "format the drive as a bootable drive with fat32 "
    i've formated it as fat32, but is there any option, that specifies to make it bootable?

    thank you very much!
     
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    Bill Castner

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    I should have been clearer.

    To format as FAT32 and to make it bootable you need to create a boot disk containing fdisk, and format. For installing XP, it is also preferable to have a disk containing SMARTDRV, as Step #3 in the Guide I linked earlier explains.

    On the Desktop computer, download the "Win98SE OEM" http://files.frashii.com/~bootdisk/alabama/boot98se.exe

    This will create a bootable floppy diskette. On the Desktop computer, set the BIOS boot order to floppy first, and boot with this floppy.

    The floppy contains FORMAT, FDISK and other utilities. Use it to Format D: /s to make your notebook hard drive bootable, and then copy the contents of the floppy to the notebook hard drive. Then use the xcopy command sequence I gave you earlier to create and copy the folder i386 from the XP CD to the notebook hard drive. Restore the notebook hard drive to the notebook and follow the instructions in the MS KB article I linked earlier.
     
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    mqdias Inactive Thread Starter

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    Sorry to bother you again. Can i copy-paste all the files and directories to a new directory in d: ? because the commands that you gave me didn't work well. i received a message that told me that 0 files were copied.
     
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    hi again, i tried to use format, but the drive letters were a bit confused.
    now, d: appear like c: with the i386 directory and d: have almost the same files as a:
    also it doesn't detect the cd drive....
    may i copy the files of the floppy to the hard disk, in addition to the directory i386 already created?
     
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    Bill Castner

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    You mount the notebook hard disk in the Desktop computer as a slave, not as the primary boot drive.

    Return the original hard drive to the Desktop computer.

    Check the jumpers on the notebook hard drive. They should be moved so that they reflect a slave position. Connect the IDE cable from the drive controller (on the motherboard) to the notebook hard drive as slave.

    Boot with the bootable floppy diskette I described earlier. Drive C will be the original Desktop hard drive. Drive D will be the notebook hard drive. (Do a dir c:\ to check. You should see only the contents of the notebook drive, likely \i386 at the moment.

    Type:
    format /s D:

    This will create a bootable hard drive of your notebook hard disk.

    When done, insert your XP CD in the optical drive of the Desktop computer. It likely will be drive letter E:

    If you cannot read the CD Rom, remove the floppy disk and boot from the regular Desktop hard drive. Insert the floppy again. Using notepad, , look at the file A:\config.sys with a text editor. Change any reference to drive D: to E: and save the file.

    Now reboot with the floppy diskette.

    Type:

    md d: \i386
    copy /s e:\i386 D:\i386

    When this completes you should find on the notebook hard disk a new folder \i386 that contains all the files from the i386 folder of the CD drive.

    Place the notebook drive back into the notebook and boot from it. Follow the instructions above to install XP from MS-DOS.
     
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    Before your responde, that i appretiate very much, i've tried to do that correctly, and it seemed like it worked fine.
    after i've installed the hard drive in notebook, it initiated fine. I followed the instructions, but it stoped in step 7 where ther was a message saying that it was copying the files to the hard disk, as is met to. the computer staid still for 2 hours in this part without moving. So the message that was suposed to appear saying "The MS-DOS based part of The Setup Program Is complete." didn't appear.
     
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    is this stoping because i haven't my external usb cd drive conected with the win xp in it?
     
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    Bill Castner

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    No.
    Sometimes it can take hours for XP installation to complete.
     
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    ok! Thank you very very much for your cooperation!
    Now i must go to sleep. I left the notebook installing xp. In the mourning, i will see how it developed and if i had any problem (that i hope not) i'll post a message.
    Thank you very much once more!!!!!:D
     
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    mqdias

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    Sorry to bother you again.
    I've do everything correctly. It took me 17 hours to complete the process.
    After, the notebook restarted, there was a menu to select 2 operating systems: wni xp and repair ein xp.
    If the default option is selected (second one), the menu that appears is the one that normally computers show when we inted to install windows. there were 3 options: install win, repair or go out. the next steps were the norma ones wich followed me to choose install windows xp in the partition selected. after this, strangly, appeard a message saying the the computer would restartin a few seconds. Conclusion, the option initially chosen wasn't efficient and did nothing.
    So, i choosed to install windows and the computer just showed me the menu of boot that was shown to me befor the 17 hours, related to win 98 boot menu.

    So, i don't know what to do next.
    I appretiate your help once more, to finish this thing.

    Thank you very much for your kindly help!
     
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    Bill Castner

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    XP installation at the conclusion of what is called the 'Text Mode' needs to reboot to enter protected mode for the first time.

    It does this by making a registry entry to continue the setup process after the reboot.

    For whatever reason this transition period is having an issue.

    I would select option #1 - Win XP.
    I suspect your option #2 appearing has something to do with the fact that you left the XP CD in the optical drive. Remove it.
     
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    mqdias

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    maybe you don't remember my case.
    I don't have my dvd player and floppy disk working. i followed your instructions to copy the boot files and the i386 directory to do this whole process. so i don't have the win xp cd but the directory.
     

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