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CLONING a DELL laptop drive [Ghost 10 clone/image will not boot]

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by tonynesta, 2006/10/08.

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    tonynesta

    tonynesta Inactive Thread Starter

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    WHen I used Norton Ghost 10.0 to clone my Dell Hard Drive, Norton told me the process 'was successful.' Then when I installed the new drive in the laptop it was recognized by the CMOS but it was not Bootable. (i.e. Windows XP did not start and the message appeared "...no drive present. ") I followed the Norton Ghost instructions, connections and checked off the the box, 'copy MBR, (master boot files). So, HOW DO I MAKE THIS NEW CLONED DRIVE BOOTABLE INTO WINDOWS? Does DELL have some kind of image or ID on their drives making them non-copyable! Thanks!
     
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    tonynesta - Welcome to the Board :)

    I am not a Ghost user, but we have a few on the BBS who are well versed in the use of Ghost and hopefully they will drop by shortly.

    In the meantime I have edited your thread title to be more specific.
     
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    tonynesta

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    Thanks, Pete...

    I'll be here:)
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    Dell doesn't do anything to prevent cloning..

    Guessing you used an external USB connection for the new drive. Did you follow the important sequence of shutting the system down when it was complete?

    Have you doubled checked the boot sequence in the bios?
     
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    I connected the drives on the Secondary IDE cable of my desktop PC

    I used the Secondary IDE cable on my desktop computer as the connections with a 40 pin adapter to each drive. The Dell original drive being the Master and the new drive to be cloned as the Slave.
    After the cloning was complete,I shut down the system as Ghost instructed and connected the new drive to laptop.
    Boot sequence is HDD 0 first for the new cloned drive.
    The rep at FRYS Electronics told me that the new cloned drive may be the problem. He said that there was a freeware program to strip the new drive of its ID and something about Slipstreaming; Then the new drive could be cloned. :confused:
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    Not sure your method will work.

    When you put the old lappy drive in your desktop, it was no longer C drive nor was it the boot drive...

    You might want to consider hooking an external usb drive to the lappy and putting th new drive in the enclouser. Its a bit slower but that is how I've done it.
     
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    :rolleyes: OK, will try again...
    THANKS
     
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    TonyT

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    ...and check the jumpers on the drive.
     
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    tonynesta

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    Finally...I used Acronis Image10.0 to do the job....

    I used Acronis Image10.0 to do the job and it worked perfectly in one attempt. I cloned my laptop hard drive in a jiffy. No mess no fuss.
    Norton Ghost just did not do it for me and gave me problems. Bye-bye to the halloween Ghost!
     
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    Bill Castner

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    The preinstalled XP image is SLP locked.
    It can only be used on a Dell computer with an identical BIOS.

    Some, not all, of the 'Recovery' images are SLP locked as well.

    SLP locked == tied to the system BIOS

    Note that this discussion on its face appears to be a gross violation of the XP EULA.
     
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    I had no idea that it was a violation to clone the system for purpose of installing a new hard drive. I've been guilty of doing that same process. I do it as a standard procedure when helping others as well. hmm... :confused:

    I always figured it wasn't any worse than installing a parallel copy of XP, of which MS seems to approve. I expect it's a grey area at best and tacit approval may be all we can ever expect in such areas.
     
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    tonynesta, I'm thinking that you probably needed to set the Ghost imaged drive to be active. I've noticed that when using Ghost before. Acronis does that automatically if you choose properly when imaging. BTW, I have settled on Acronis for imaging as of ver, 6 and don't have many complaints. I tolerates GoBack fairly well which I like to run.

    All the best.
     
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    Bill Castner

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    A parallel install of XP requires a seperate license. As does the use of XP as a virtual client with XP as a virtual Host. This has been discussed many times; e.g. : http://groups.google.com/group/micr...24a92eea04f/3466e18b53c714f0#3466e18b53c714f0

    Microsoft provides instructions on using -seal, and other elements of an acceptable copy from an original disk: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/oempreac.mspx

    What you did I think will not be contested. It was decidedly not clear that your were intending to replace a drive rather than copy an existing installation for use elsewhere; and it was to that possibility I responded. In any case if the issue is whether what you did 'legal' as far as Microsoft concerned the answer is unambiguous that it is not.
     
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