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Networking nightmare

Discussion in 'Networking (Hardware & Software)' started by n1ey, 2006/09/02.

  1. 2006/09/02
    n1ey

    n1ey Inactive Thread Starter

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    I have a Netgear router at my club. Several computers are hooked up via hub to the router. These machines are able to browse the internet and share files or printers without any problems. I recently ran a cat5 cable through the ceiling to the new computer station upstairs. The cable is good.

    Why can't I access the internet on the computer upstairs? I can ping the router. I can see the network neighborhood. It is running windows ME. It works fined when plugged into a cable downstairs. I also have a barebones Windows 98 machine that will not work at all. Anyone know why? It wouldn't get any numbers from DHCP at all. I will not connect.

    Bill
     
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    ghemant

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    I don't think the DHCP is the problem as you said at downstair the same pc is working ,kindly check the cable and RJ 45 .

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    Bill Castner

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    Help me out a little bit.

    When you say it is not working, what exactly happens?
    Are there error numbers and error messages that you could report back to the Forum?

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    n1ey

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    I get message "can not display page. "

    The cable had previously worked before I pulled it through the
    floor.

    How can I ping the router or another machine but not
    access the web?

    I also have another machine that it is one Windows 98 SE,
    which refuses to cooperate.
     
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    Bill Castner

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    A ping is a very low level proof of TCP/IP connectivity.

    From the troubled machine, do a Start, Run and type ipconfig /all

    Post the results back to the Forum.

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    n1ey

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    It would not get a proper number from the DHCP server. It would seemly
    get a network address such as 169.xxx.xxx.xxx. I don't know from where. I'm not at the club, today. I tried to manually assign a IP number along with gateway. After I did this I was able to ping the router. I forgot to mention
    this previously. The troubled machine is running WINDOWS ME(incase I didn't
    mention this previously). The router is a netgear box. The other machines
    are running Windows 98 SE.
     
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    ReggieB

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    It sounds like the cable has got damaged in the process of pulling it through, or you are running near a high noise device such as a ceiling light, or along side a mains lead. Also how long is the cable: if it around 100m or longer you are near the limits of ethernet.

    As Bill says, ping only sends a small packet of information. It is a lot harder for a network to pass over the larger files needed to display a web page.

    If you have tried two different computers and you get the same problem you have to look at the common item in the connection - that's the cable.
     
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    Bill Castner

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    For XP SP2 machines:

    Start, Run, CMD
    netsh winsock reset.

    Wait for a prompt that a restart is need. Restart the machine.

    For Win95, ME, Win2, XP pre-Service Pack 2 see the tutorial instructions and download link here: http://www.iup.edu/house/resnet/winfix.shtm
     
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    bilbus

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    169.254.x.x is the address you get when no dhcp server is found and you have APPIA enabled. Your computer is not on the network IP wise. Is a dhcp active, if so this is a bigger problem.
     
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    bilbus

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    as said before 169.254 is a address you get when you can not locate a dhcp server.

    you need to asign a static ip .. if that works you can see if its the dhcp server thats down (or out of addresses) or if its the cable
     
  12. 2006/09/17
    n1ey

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    DHCP server works fine. I haven't tested the cable yet. The computer works on a different cable when plugged into the router. I believe the cable is suspect.

    n1ey
     

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