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Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Tom In Dallas, 2006/09/04.

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    Tom In Dallas

    Tom In Dallas Inactive Thread Starter

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    I got a new laptop, it had 16 gb populated on C. I have been removing trial software, it is now down to 11.2 gb. However, the component directories of C only total about 5.9 gb. This is with hidden folders/filed displayed in windows explorer.

    Is there any software I can use to find the files/folders that are hidden from Windows explorer?

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    Bill Castner

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    Start, Run, cmd

    cd \
    attrib *.*

    cd \windows
    attrib *.*


    Note that Virtual Memory, System Restore cache, Hibernation if enabled storage cache, your registry hives and your SAM database, your Client Side Caching cache, your filestore metadate and metafiles, your MFT or other directory structure elements, are all hidden even when you ask to show hidden files and folders.
     

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    Tom In Dallas

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    Bill,

    You said: "Note that Virtual Memory, System Restore cache, Hibernation if enabled storage cache, your registry hives and your SAM database, your Client Side Caching cache, your filestore metadate and metafiles, your MFT or other directory structure elements, are all hidden even when you ask to show hidden files and folders. "

    Hmmm- so if I use Ghost 10 to backup the c drive, then the backup should be much smaller if it runs off the CD? I assume these files only excist at run time.

    It seems like Ghost 10 should know better than to
    backup these files. The Ghost ten backup is 8.9 gig. Standard compression.

    Tom
     
  5. 2006/09/05
    Bill Castner

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    The files persist post-runtime, although you can set a Group Policy Object or do a registry edit to have XP clear its pagefile during shutdown. The other elements persist unless disable or handled outside of the Operating System.

    I cannot speak of what Ghost does or does not do. The current version of Ghost is based on Drive Image, and it would make a copy of all the hidden files I mentioned except the drive MFT.

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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    Hi Bill!

    Neither do I know how Ghost 9/10 handles those files but Ghost 2003 excludes "one session files" like pagefile.sys, hiberfil.sys and a few others. An annoying side effect of this is when Ghost 2003 calculates required space for the image, those "one session files" are included and it may happen that it says that there is not enough space on the target drive when there actually is.

    Are you sure that Drive Image (Ghost 9/10 implied) excludes the MFT? I would believe that the MFT is one of the most important "items" to include in any image!

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    Bill Castner

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    No I am not.

    But I was not aware that you could restore to a nonpartitioned and non-formatted volume.

    And this feature would cause me some concern if you were cloning a smaller drive to a larger one.

    But I honestly do not know.

    One thing I do know is that what you are referrring to as "One Session" files does not mean they are removed when you logoff. They are persistent into the next session unless special steps are taken. Disable Hibernation, Disable System Restore, will make a difference. You can ask XP to remove the pagefile on exit, but that will not answer your question of missing space.

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    Christer

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    "One Session Files" is actually the "nomenclature" used by Symantec and I am aware of that the do not get removed when shutting down. If they were, Ghost wouldn't have to exclude them. Symantec call them "One Session Files" because after a reboot, the previous contents is history and of no use to the system and in concequence would be excessive in an image.

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