Netscape 7.1

I just joined this forum this morning, so if I stumble, forgive me in advance.

I use Netscape 7.1 and I like it, I also have IE 6.0, and Fiurefox 1.5.

How can I upgrade to Netscape 8.1 or the newest version without losing my bookmarks, saved passwords and browsing history, if that is possible. Or worst case, how do I set my 7.1 back to factory default settings? I really like 7.1, and hate to get rid of it, kind of like an old comfortable pair of shoes you hate to throw out, can anyone please help.

I had to register with my ISp E-mail address, but I rarely use it, if possible, and if anyone has any positive advice please respond to me at:


Cheers Mate

 

1. Don't post your e-mail address.
2. Netscape8.1 is a browser only program. with several bugs, which will never be fixed (owned by AOL, which has no longer in-house support, so no development to go with it). Netscape8.1 has nothing over Firefox with the IE Tabs extention.
although NS8.1 is more up-to-date than 7.1, it is based on an older Firefox version (no one knows for sure which one). But, if you want to, your settings should be imported from 7.1. Nothing will be lost as long as yoy keep 7.1.
If you are thinking about default settings, you will need to create a new profile. Of course all your bookmarks, etc will not be available. However, the old profile will remain, and will be available, as long as you select it.
Still, I think that you should be thinking of another, more updated style of shoes. I am not giving you any link.You will find the appropriate information in "sticky" section.

 

G'day,

Was not aware about not posting e-mail address, just joined, thanks mate.

If I just leave the 7.1 on, can you might tell me why I can't push the back arrow key to reach the previous page? If I Tick on Close, the Browser closes, sometimes I have more than one window open, and want to go back one page, but the back one page is not working, is there a tweak or something I did to cause this function to stop working? And for some reason now, the "Netscape Logo" in the upper right hand corner remains active as if it was processing something.

Don't ask me why, but I like 7.1, and if it meant losing so much saved passwords, bookmarks and browsing history, I reckon I will stick with it.

I have plenty of RAM, but for some reason my IE 6.0 takes forever to load pages, I use WIN XP.

Cheers Mate,

Sean

 

Sean,
the e-mail thing is a security thing (your own). I have been at certain websites, where it is recommended that a fake username be used in public, to avoid trawling by spammers.
As for your 7.1 question, you should check your Preferences|Navigator|History.
Browsing history if set to 0 will give you the problem you describe. It should be set to, at least, "1 ".
I don't know about the logo (I don't even have NS7.x, anymore), but it seems to be running something, and, not completing the operation. If you do not empty the Cache, please doing it (from Preferences|advanced|cache).
But the way there are Temporary Files on your hard drive which should be wiped clean, and the Temporary Internet Files will drag down IE.
By the way, all information for NS7.1 resides in the Profile. Such profile cannot be use directly by NS8.1, but can be used by the more up-to-date Seamonkey, if the program (NS7.1) is first uninstalled. You can always reinstall, with no losses of personal data. Just keep in mind that you should never attempt to use one profile with two dissimilar programs.
As an example of how outdated NS7.1 is, it is based on rv.1.7.1 (common with Mozilla). Mozilla has reached the end at rv.1.7.13. since then Seamonkey has come out with its fourth update. If you add things up, it is is clear that you are 16 updates behind with NS7.1. But, you can carry on, if you are not comfortable making changes.
Keep posting, if you have more questions.

 

Welcome to the Forum, AusieSean!

G'day yourself, Sean!

Westside has given you the very best advice, and solution, to your back button problem, etc. I would like to expand on your using a 3 year old browser...

Netscape 7.1 (based on Mozilla 1.4) was released in June 2003. You're really using an obsolete browser, which is loaded with security vulnerabilities, not to mention bugs galore. Look here, for the list of security vulnerabilities which have been fixed, since Netscape 7.1:

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html#Mozilla
PLUS
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/older-vulnerabilities.html#jul-2003

I know it's hard to leave an application you love, and are comfortable with, but I would urge you to use Firefox 1.5.0.6, and Thunderbird 1.5.0.5. You won't lose any of your Netscape 7.1 personal data.

When you install Thunderbird it will automatically copy your Netscape Profile information for Mail/Address Book, etc. You won't have to do a thing. Thunderbird is a very secure and stable Mail program, and you won't be plagued by any lost data, etc. It runs quite well with Firefox, and if you chose to not uninstall Netscape, it won't interfere in any way. Keep in mind that if you continue to use Netscape Mail
(I wouldn't recommend it) you should probably select to leave Mail on the server so you can access it in both Mail clients. If you have further questions, please let us know.

BTW, you might want to take a look at this page, for maintenance hints for your browser and mail client: Preventive Browser Maintenance

Cheers!

P.S. I removed your email address.

 

Seamonkey

If Ramona and Westside don't mind, I would like to jump into this conversation and ask a question and give a suggestion to AussieSean based on what your response is.

I normally only listen and ask question myself. But, this kind of got my attention because I am using Seamonkey and I didn't see it get a mention.

As you know, I have been using Netscape since about day one and never went beyond version 7.02 because I frankly couldn't get along with NS 7.2 much less NS 8.0

I am like you AussieSean, I like my old pair of shoes and to get me to change something I am comfortable with is worse then pulling teeth.

However, about 8 or 9 months ago, Ramona convinced me it was time to move on and she recommended the Firefox browser and Thunderbird for email and was at that time also saying if you like a suite arrangement then switch to Seamonkey.

So, at that time, I installed all of them including Mozilla which is also a Suite arrangement and the same thing as Netscape and Seamonkey.

Over a 3 or 4 week period, I tried all 3 of them and kept going back and forth from one to the other. If I was going to change I wanted to go with the latest and greatest which I have assumed is Firefox and Thunderbird.

I kind of liked the Firefox and Thunderbird cosmetics and controls, but, I do not like the way the attachments are located on Thunderbird and didn't much like not having the suite arrangment.

So, after 3 or 4 weeks of evaluating all 3 of them, and mainly it came down to choosing between Firefox/Thunderbird and Seamonkey I choose to go with Seamonkey.

I choose Seamonkey only because of the Suite arrangment and the e-mail attachment method in Thunderbird.

I would say to AussieSean that he has been given good advice.

I myself realized that Netscape in the hands of AOL will never go anywhere except downhill and it was as Westside suggested time to get a new pair of shoes.

Fact is AussieSean, if you go with Seamonkey you will have a darn tough time even knowing you have a new pairs of shoes. Except for a little blue bird you will think you are still using Netscape.

Also let me tell you that, as of today I have installed on my computer Mozilla 1.7.12 and Firefox 1.5.0.1 and Thunderbird 1.5 and Seamonkey 1.0 and of course have IE.

Fact is, I also have Netscape 7.02 and Netscape 4.76 and Netscape 3.04

So, you don't necessarliy have to give up one to have the other.

I keep and use all these browsers because in my old age, I enjoy doing web pages for my kids, grand kids, and great grandkids and usually check most of my web pages to make sure they view properly with the different browsers.

My personaly recommendations to AussieSean is to immediately drop any ideas of updating to another Netscape and based on his wanting the same old shoes then go get Seamonkey and install it.

Seamonkey will install and use the exact same profile as is currently being used with Netscape 7.1. Of course I will also say make sure you have the existing Netscape Profile Backed up prior to installing Seamonkey.

I will also tell you that, I have Mozilla, Seamonky and Netscape 7.02 all using the same Profile and have being doing so now for 8 or 9 months without any problems.

My computer has a second hard drive D: and while I have the browser program files installed on Drive C: I keep my Profile Folder located on Drive D:

Mozilla, Seamonky and Netscape will not allow you to use the same Profile at the same time but, they do use the same profile when used one browser at a time.

Since I'm one of those people who never throws anything away I create a new Profile every year and will name them RAY-2005 - RAY-2006 etc.

NOW, with all of the above said, I do have a concern with what I have said.

First off, I took notice of Westside's post last week where he used the words "YAWN!! Seamonkey 1.04 is Out "

I now notice in this post that Ramona did not mention Seamonkey. So, my concern and question is:...... What are the future plans for Seamonkey and is it no longer a viable option worthy of being recommended.

I don't want to suggest to AussieSean that he use Seamonkey and then it be obsolete in a version or two.

I will also suggest AussieSean try Firefox and Thunderbird and if he can live with the non suite arrangement and e-mail attach method then by all means go with FF/TB because that is where the attention is right now.

Frankly, I wish they would make a suite out of Firefox and use the Seamonkey mail system or change the attachment method in Thunderbird.

So, in closing let an old listerner welcome AussieSean to this forum and YES bad as we all hate it Netscape is out of business and Firefox - Thunderbird is the way to go for any new comers.

Us old hard headed folks, set in our ways do have Seamonkey unless Ramona and Westside are going to tell us it too is on it's way out.

Cheers,

 

Netscape

G'day Chief,

And "Kudos" for explaining so well, not to say the others hadn't. I did download FireFox 1.5, but I use the Upgraded "paid for" E-mail Client because of all the features it offers, and I have been using and upgrading it as they fix bugs. I must say mate I never heard of Seamonkey, where would one might have a look at it? I do thinbk FireFox is faster that IE 6.0, and I added the User Switcher Agent with FureFox, works great.

Cheers Mate,

Sean ...

P. S. The e-mail client is Incrdimail ...... upgraded paid version

 

Sean,

You can read about SeaMonkey here: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/releases/

The Release Notes offer a world of information, as well as other links on the download page.

SeaMonkey is developed by a group of individuals, and not by Mozilla. I push Firefox and Thunderbird, as this is the focus of Mozilla. You will find, as discussed above, that SeaMonkey is visually identical to Netscape and Mozilla.

If you want more discussion on the SeaMonkey project, read this:
http://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey:Home_Page

then ask questions, if you have any. This page is very self explanatory as well as informative.

 

Netscape/Seamonkey

G'day Ramona,

And "Kudos" to you as well, I find this forum to be the most friendliest I have ever seen/used, and I bloody well appreciate that. If I may, one quick question about IE 6.0, why does the bloody thing take so long to load and open pages?


Cheers,

Sean ...

 

Sean,

I see Ramona has provided you with the link to download Seamonkey. Good luck with what ever decision and choice you make.

AND Thanks, Ramona for further clarifying the Mozilla and Seamonkey groups. I knew there was a connection but, never have taken the time to really understand the difference.

Cheers,

 

By the way, my message #4 said:Such profile cannot be use directly by NS8.1, but can be used by the more up-to-date Seamonkey, if the program (NS7.1) is first uninstalled
At that time, I did not wish to push it since there had been questions about NS8.1.
I, personally, have had serious problems using the same profile of NS7.2, with Seamonkey1.0.2. Eventually, I had to create a brand new profile for Seamonkey, into which I copied/pasted most of the NS7.2 files. There must have been some incompatibility.
And, to Sean. Why is IE slow? I don't have a clue. Go after its Temporary Internet Files. They are like Netscape/Mozilla/Seamonkey/Firefox Cache. If there is too much of it Cache=Trash.

 

Sean,

If the above doesn't clear up your IE problem, then ask your question on the Internet Explorer Forum: http://www.windowsbbs.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3

You won't find IE users here....

 

Netscape

G'day,

"Oops "

Cheers,

Sean