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Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by dem45133, 2006/06/13.

  1. 2006/06/13
    dem45133

    dem45133 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Believe a XP question (not seamonkey... its only the example I used)

    OK... one machine... two user accounts, both titled the same, but one set as admin the other limited (also has default adminstrator account from install that I never use, MS remote account I'd love to get rid of).

    I want to operate normally in limited for security while on line which is by default sort always on unless I remove the power from sat modem.

    This becomes a problem when setting up specific programs that I need to be able to overwrite files, move and reset profiles, mail and bookmark files, data (bringin... work on.. resave)... etc. In limited mode it will load the data files as "read only "s and not tell you until you go to resave.

    For example... Seamonkey will let it overwite in its "limited" user directory structure file where its original profile and user files live, but it will not let me keep the mail and bookmark files in a directory of my own making to be used by either the admin or the limited accounts. In admin it will go wherever I tell it. In limited mode it will log and save the path... but not actually open the file. Wierd. (Not interested in splitting up my mail into two files... we have only one ISP mail account). Noticed the same limitation with an older pre XP (actually Win95) program (set to run in 95 compatability mode) where when operated in limited mode I can not update its data/working files. I imagine I'll have more of this as I install more of my older programming. I'm not buying 30 or 40 new programs weve used for years when, for our needs, they work just fine... just need XP to run em (in limited mode). Mostly scientific, regulatory, math, and engineering progs)

    While I generally want file overwrites ability turned off in limited mode... for data files and other specific files I want to tell it somehow its ok.

    How do I do this?

    Or are the older programs in general (mostly 95 and 98 vintage, a few 3.11) so tied to full access that they can not be told to operate in limited XP mode? Could be...

    I may have to somehow switch the sat modem's PS, run in admin normally except when online... but that would be a pain... rather be able to set up to operate them limited. Need to be online to check mail a few times a day anyway.


    Thanks;
    Dave
    Hillsboro, Ohio
     
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  2. 2006/06/14
    dem45133

    dem45133 Inactive Thread Starter

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    NO comments????

    Figured this a common problem... Maybe too much....

    Simplified... Where can I study up on setting up user privs for specific files and/or programs?

    Thanks again,
    Dave
    Hillsboro, Ohio
     

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  4. 2006/06/14
    Arie

    Arie Administrator Administrator Staff

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    Personally I wouldn't bother with it: It doesn't work.

    Start trying out Windows Vista. It should be workable. (remember, Vista is still a "work in progress" :D )
     
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  5. 2006/06/15
    dem45133

    dem45133 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Doesn't Work ... gee, now that’s real surprising?

    Doesn't Work ... gee, now that’s real surprising?

    Guess the overwrite setting are too global in nature... and not specifically assignable to individual directories? Though it must be able somehow since its already doing it for whatever MS wanted it to (in limited)... although those maybe hard coded.

    Vista huh? I just bought this XP pro 6 months ago... one before that was 98SE. If it wasn't for online security and SATA drives… I'd go back to it. May anyway and use a PCI adaptor card. Hardly any drives (short of high-end SCSIs maybe) … including these raptors can sustain the PCI limit of 133.

    Guess we need 4 old computers around... just to still use the software we already had. Most of mine are older engineering/calculations/modeling based... and they actually scream on the super-fast hardware of today. They are simple programs with no room for the frivolous (one of the reasons I like them... and I could care less if its an ASCII screen... I'm only after the process's result. Those formulae and calcs haven't changed.).

    I know Gate's and all the rest are not happy unless every one of us spend thousands of $ a year on new software. 100% backward compatibility is not cost effective since only a very few % of us were in them 20 or 25 years ago. Heck, we still have 2 old CPM based machines in the "attic-museum "... still work too... at least the last time I had them out (about 10 years ago).

    Oh well... back to the original question... seemed like it would have been a straight forward assignable thing to do (from an Admin account).

    I’ll quit ranting... later and thanks.
    Dave
    Hillsboro, Ohio
     

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