Pop time out after Migration

I'm migrating to a new computer. I installed TBird before even opening it the first time I copied the files and folders in \docs&settings\name\application data\thunderbird\profiles\<gibberish> into the same or, ehh, roughly the same folder from old to new drive. When I started TB for the first time, to my totall astonishment it was exactly as if I had opened it on the old drive/computer. The only problem I have is that EVERYtime I open TB I get Pop.<server>.com time out for every account. All the way down the line for all the email accounts. This is two different pop servers that both do it and it only does it on this computer where I copied all the files and folders over. Once I pound through all the error messages (one for each account) it continues and downloads messages for some. Others if I click on the account and then hit get messages it downloads mail normally. Apparently something I migrated over does not agree, though both are 1.5 version. Is there a or some particular file I should change back?? TIA!

 

Before looking for the files, I would look at all the mail settings. It looks that everything is ok, but certain information may have not come over. I have never done it the way you describe, which is a proper, precisely because I did not trust the wholesome usage of all new stuff. I prefer to do it the hard way, i.e. starting from scratch with my accounts and server (and, I have , probably six of them, with 12 accounts), following with copying and pasting of the files. Slow going, but I never had a problem.
But, on the other hand, your method should work.

 

Yeah, I did check all the settings. Like, 4 times. Twice more while beating my head on the desk. It didn't help. I did finally get rid of the headache about 20 minutes ago though....


The main reason I did it that way is I have a number of Themes and extentions that I wanted to try to keep with out having to reinstall.

 

I uninstalled and completely removed all of Tb. Reinstalled it, set up one of the accounts and tried and it worked flawlessly. Then it started the same old trouble, when I click to open it I get an error that the server timed out. The error pops up immediately, that's immediately not waiting enough time for the pop to actually time out. I have check the settings, they are identical to the settings on two other machines with the SAME emaila accounts and those two work fine.

Okay, just thought about Zonealarm. I'm going to try disabling it and see, but it seems like Tb was doing this on the new computer before I ever even installed Za on it. More at 5...

 

Is this happening with or without extra Themes or Extentions?
I don't know why they would have anything to do with your problem, if you had them in the previous installation.
I looked again at your original post, and there is something which I am not sure about.
You said that you copied files and foldrs into a profile folder. The way to do it properly is to delete whichever folder you had created with the installation, and replace it with the original one. It sounds to me that you were adding/replacing files and folders. That may cause a mess, because if you had a gibberish1 before, and you replacing files/folders in gibberish2, you will have some conflict.
Are your "gibberish" folders with exactly the same designation. If they are, I don't know what is the problem.

 

I did in the original that I transfered over, but in this latest new installation I do not and I only entered one of the accounts and I did it manually instead of by transferring files.

That's what I thought also until I completely uninstalled and removed all the files and folders and did a clean reinstall. It still does it. Mind you it's reandom. Some times it does, sometimes it don't. Sometimes on a second or third try it works, other times it refuses to connect either in or out unless you close it and restart. I tried it on one of the other machines and Za had zero effect.

I think this evening I will try removal and reinstall again making positive that I removed all the config files that are left over.

 

You need to remove only the profile folder. Nothing else. Reinstalling the program has no effect on this.

 

WindsorFox,

If your AntiVirus has email protection enabled, then I would disable that option. The autoprotect will ensure that you are protected.

 

Anti-virus?? Umm... Oh, yeah, uhh, anti-virus....



LOL Actually I don't use one, but Zonealarm has some kind of email sniffer thingy so I have removed Za temporarily and am going to leave it off and see if it still does it. I gotta say I'm really tired o getting my email through Log-Me-In offa P3 Dell

 

Tell me that you jest!!! You are really temping fate my friend, and I hope that you will install an antivirus soon. Listed below are two AV applications which are recommended, and both are freeware:

http://www.free-av.com/
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5

 

I almost forgot this Free AntiVirus suite, and it too has a good rating:
http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html

PC Magazine gives the three Free AntiVirus suites a 3.5 out of 5 rating. None are as thorough, however as McAfee, Norton, etc.

 

Nope. The only time I've ever used an A/V is when I got a free year of PC-Cillan for participating in research for Trend when they were redesigning their web site. I've also set up and tried quite a few just to see how they work etc. I set up all my customers with AVG free when they ask me what to do after the Norton that came with their PC expires. I've had a lot of the people at GRC say they like Avast as well, but you have to complete a free registration with it and that's a step the computer illiterate don't need to worry about. I've also never had a virus or trojan on my personal system <knock, knock> Oohhh no! Don't say the "N" word. Norton recently got horrible ratings, I think one list listed AVG free as better than the paid Norton. IMHO McAfee is bloatware as well, but that's my opinion.

Anyway, it just did it again. Oddly at almost the exact time it did it, Firefix stalled on loading a page as well. I'm not sure if the two are connected or not. I am starting to lean towards a system problem. I disabled the "Marvel" NI and enabled the nVidia NI and swapped the cable. When it grabbed an IP Firefox loaded the page, but I had to restart Thunderbird to get the mail. Some how I think that's too easy and it's probably not fixed yet. But I am thinking maybe the transfering all the folders and stuff over isn't the root of the trouble.

 

Okay, as of now Firefox connects and goes anywhere I want, tracert and such all work fine. Thunderbird, however; does not. When I click Get Mail I immediately get "Connection to server pop.east.cox.net timed out." Now obviously it is not timeing out because it does it immediately and I have the time out set for 120 seconds. If I try to send I get Connecting to smtp.east.cox.net failed. It has to be Thunderbird whether there is associated hardware trouble or not. I am on the verge of formating this drive and starting over this weekend.

Oh and the same account on Tb on another machine behind me will work flawlessly.

 

I have Cox, and, once only once I had problems. Being in the midwest, my settings are: pop.central.cox.net to receive, and
smtp.central.cox.net to send. Once, for some reason, i had problems, and it was suggested to try smtp.west.cox.net, but, only to send mail. But, it makes no sense to make changes, if things work ok on another computer.But, I would remove the account, and, try to start from scratch.

 

This is after removing and starting from scratch. Twice. I removed every file I could find that had to do with Tb except for registry entries. I guess I'll do it all one more time and include sifting maticulously through RedEdit. God how I hate doing that, it's like watching grass grow. Then after that it's going to be a full format, I'm sick of this. Even when it does work if you click Get Mail 6 times in a row it may work 2 times. On the other machine I can click it as many times as I want ans fast or slow and it never gives an error.

 

I meant that you remove the account, in Mail Account Settings. You can uninstall till doomsday, and nothing good will happen. Unless, you really started from scratch having remove the profile (where your mail is located).
You can create a new profile, and set up your account. If everything is ok, you will be able to download mail from your server. Then, we can start thinking to bring in the old mail.
I am not sure that I fully understand what you have been doing. But, whatever it is, it is not working. Leave the program alone, unless you installed some unusual theme, and concentrate on your profile.

 

Leave it alone? It does not work. What it is doing apparently has nothing to do with the profile. I removed every file on the hard drive that has anything to do with Thunderbird after the uninstall except for the registry entries and if it screws up again that is next.

 

WindsorFox,

Westside is right on, as the problem is obviously in your Profile. You can uninstall and reinstall until the cows come home and it will do absolutely nothing.

Create a new Profile and add the problem Mail Account. If the Mail is downloaded, then you can then manually transfer your Mail files, sans any MSF files. This page will help: Manually Transfer Mail Files to New Profile.

 

Well it must be creating the profile like that everytime I install Tb, because the last time I uninstalled I removed the profile along with all other files that had anything to do with Tb and and reinstalled. It created a new profile when I started Tb for the first time and I manually entered the info for my main email address, no copies of anything. When it still had a problem that's when I compared all the settings to the install on the other computer. So if it is a problem in the profile, everytime Thunderbird creats a new profile even after a new install it's creating a faulty profile. I don't know what else to do but format the disk and start over from scratch.

 

WindsorFox,

I'm sure that you have selected "Direct Connection to the Internet" in:
Tools | Options | General | Connection Settings

Altho you don't use an AntiVirus program, check here:
Tools | Options | Privacy | AntiVirus
Perhaps that setting is enabled in error?